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6.5 saum
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<blockquote data-quote="apexmtnman" data-source="post: 572043" data-attributes="member: 13022"><p>Milo</p><p>Not trying to pick a fight just tired of all the amazing claims of the short mag crowd. All of the data for the 264 mag is very old. With the new powders available today its not hard to get 3200 fps out of a 264 with a 26 inch barrel. My load is 68.5 grains of Retumbo, WW case, 215M primer and Berger 140 hunting VLD. By the way its the max load recommended by Berger for this bullet. I also got to 3200 fps with H1000 but accuracy was not as good. I have 3 264's and they all can handle this load without any pressure problems. Shot a nice 1.5" group at 300 yards with my Rem 700 CDL SF a couple of months back so it's a fairly accurate load also.</p><p>I've been handloading for over 40 years and never had a "belted magnum failure" don't know what that is. Thats another pet peeve, if you know how to set up your dies there is nothing wrong with the belted case. Many accuracy records have been set with belted magnums over the years. People have case head seperation on non belted cases all the time for various reasons and don't blame it on "non belted case failure".</p><p>I did shoot with a guy that had a 6.5 WSM built and was getting about 3400 fps out of it with 140 gr and RL 17 but on the second firing if you tapped the case on a table the primer would fall out. Not a practical load if you ask me, but then I'm no expert.</p><p>Not trying to be an @ss Milo, just trying to set the record straight on the capability of the 264 Win Mag with todays powders. I did see a post on here the other day about some amazing velocities with a 6.5 saum maybe he'll come on here and set me straight.</p><p> Milo I think you're selling your STW short, you should be able to push 180 gr bullets faster than a 7WSM, E-Mail Eric Stecker at Berger for loads for the 7 STW and their 180 gr bullets I think you'll be surprised.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="apexmtnman, post: 572043, member: 13022"] Milo Not trying to pick a fight just tired of all the amazing claims of the short mag crowd. All of the data for the 264 mag is very old. With the new powders available today its not hard to get 3200 fps out of a 264 with a 26 inch barrel. My load is 68.5 grains of Retumbo, WW case, 215M primer and Berger 140 hunting VLD. By the way its the max load recommended by Berger for this bullet. I also got to 3200 fps with H1000 but accuracy was not as good. I have 3 264's and they all can handle this load without any pressure problems. Shot a nice 1.5" group at 300 yards with my Rem 700 CDL SF a couple of months back so it's a fairly accurate load also. I've been handloading for over 40 years and never had a "belted magnum failure" don't know what that is. Thats another pet peeve, if you know how to set up your dies there is nothing wrong with the belted case. Many accuracy records have been set with belted magnums over the years. People have case head seperation on non belted cases all the time for various reasons and don't blame it on "non belted case failure". I did shoot with a guy that had a 6.5 WSM built and was getting about 3400 fps out of it with 140 gr and RL 17 but on the second firing if you tapped the case on a table the primer would fall out. Not a practical load if you ask me, but then I'm no expert. Not trying to be an @ss Milo, just trying to set the record straight on the capability of the 264 Win Mag with todays powders. I did see a post on here the other day about some amazing velocities with a 6.5 saum maybe he'll come on here and set me straight. Milo I think you're selling your STW short, you should be able to push 180 gr bullets faster than a 7WSM, E-Mail Eric Stecker at Berger for loads for the 7 STW and their 180 gr bullets I think you'll be surprised. [/QUOTE]
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