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6.5 Creedmoor or 25-06 for Deer
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<blockquote data-quote="MudRunner2005" data-source="post: 1388870" data-attributes="member: 12995"><p>I don't even know where to begin to respond to that... Especially the part about not having killed enough animals with a certain caliber to tell a good kill from a bad kill... Last I checked, the animal is dead and recovered and harvested...That's a good kill. I haven't killed any with my .25-06 AI, but I shot enough of them with my .257 Weatherby to know that the .25 caliber bullets traveling over 3,300 FPS will flat-kill whitetail deer.</p><p></p><p>Also, animals run. They don't bang-flop every time, and honestly, that rarely happens unless you happen to hit the CNS just right when the animal is not stressed at all. If the animal is alert or stressed, and you shoot it, it's going to run because it's adrenaline is already running from it's fight or flight response that's being triggered in its brain.</p><p></p><p>While I normally use 7mm and .30 caliber cartridges for deer hunting, they are not necessary. Animals are not magical and are not that hard to kill. Some run, some don't, and as long as you know how to shoot, put the bullet where you want it, and know how to track, you shouldn't lose any animals, regardless of caliber diameter. There are many deer killed each year by AR's chambered in .223 Remington.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and as for bullets blowing up, it's well-documented that I've had a Hornady 139 SST grenade on a whitetail from a 7mm RemMag when it was running over 3,300 FPS MV. The deer was found and harvested, but it made a mess. My point is, any bullet that's too light traveling too fast has the potential to explode.</p><p></p><p>Accuracy... EVERY cartridge has the potential to be just as accurate as any other...Some rifles are just not as accurate as others. The .25-06 is no exception, and can be just as accurate as a 6mm Dasher being shot from a 70 lb. HG benchrest rig bolted to a metal slide.</p><p></p><p>To the OP, pick what you want, but don't believe that there is anything wrong with the .25-06, other than the lack of heavy high-BC bullets, and that's the industry's fault for letting all the .25 caliber shooters down.</p><p></p><p>As for the .25-06 being an "antique", that doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying the .30-06 is obsolete because it's been around since 1906... TO this day, it's still one of the most widely used and revered American hunting cartridges that's ever been created.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MudRunner2005, post: 1388870, member: 12995"] I don't even know where to begin to respond to that... Especially the part about not having killed enough animals with a certain caliber to tell a good kill from a bad kill... Last I checked, the animal is dead and recovered and harvested...That's a good kill. I haven't killed any with my .25-06 AI, but I shot enough of them with my .257 Weatherby to know that the .25 caliber bullets traveling over 3,300 FPS will flat-kill whitetail deer. Also, animals run. They don't bang-flop every time, and honestly, that rarely happens unless you happen to hit the CNS just right when the animal is not stressed at all. If the animal is alert or stressed, and you shoot it, it's going to run because it's adrenaline is already running from it's fight or flight response that's being triggered in its brain. While I normally use 7mm and .30 caliber cartridges for deer hunting, they are not necessary. Animals are not magical and are not that hard to kill. Some run, some don't, and as long as you know how to shoot, put the bullet where you want it, and know how to track, you shouldn't lose any animals, regardless of caliber diameter. There are many deer killed each year by AR's chambered in .223 Remington. Oh, and as for bullets blowing up, it's well-documented that I've had a Hornady 139 SST grenade on a whitetail from a 7mm RemMag when it was running over 3,300 FPS MV. The deer was found and harvested, but it made a mess. My point is, any bullet that's too light traveling too fast has the potential to explode. Accuracy... EVERY cartridge has the potential to be just as accurate as any other...Some rifles are just not as accurate as others. The .25-06 is no exception, and can be just as accurate as a 6mm Dasher being shot from a 70 lb. HG benchrest rig bolted to a metal slide. To the OP, pick what you want, but don't believe that there is anything wrong with the .25-06, other than the lack of heavy high-BC bullets, and that's the industry's fault for letting all the .25 caliber shooters down. As for the .25-06 being an "antique", that doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying the .30-06 is obsolete because it's been around since 1906... TO this day, it's still one of the most widely used and revered American hunting cartridges that's ever been created. [/QUOTE]
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