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<blockquote data-quote="codyadams" data-source="post: 2464279" data-attributes="member: 87243"><p>Thank you sir! Ya, that is just how life goes sometimes. A few people on here seem to never admit they don't always hit the mark, and worse yet won't even entertain the possibility that someone else may know more about something, or may have solid data that counters their experiences. I have had much better experiences being open to all opinions, and combine those of others with my own observations to make my decisions and aid in my learning. Part of that, is accepting that I screw up sometimes!</p><p></p><p>That shot was only off by about .75 MOA, earlier that evening there was about a 4ish mph wind moving up the canyon I had been watching, then the elk came out of the patch of timber I knew they were in. In my excitement, I failed to double check my wind and notice that it had dropped off to essentially nothing, and that was enough to do it. I have killed several more elk with that rifle, and came to a couple conclusions. While a smaller 6.5 (say, 6.5x284 or less) absolutely will kill big elk, even at long ranges out to over 900 yards in my personal experience, the bullets that have the bc to retain velocity for expansion, energy, and minimal wind deflection as well as do the needed damage to put them down quickly at those ranges in those cartridges tend to not exit. If a shot goes through the back of the lungs or the liver, it will certainly kill the elk, however they may or may not cover significant ground before they go down, and if there is not an exit, you may have a very hard time tracking. And Murphy doesn't discriminate, eventually, a less than optimal shot will be made.</p><p></p><p>When you get up to the 7mm, or better yet .30 and .338 in the bigger chamberings, you can get enough horsepower behind many types of mono bullets, bonded bullets and others that they will have acceptable performance at long ranges. Even the bigger VLD/EOL/ELD-X and other similar type bullets tend to do a better job at exiting than the smaller 6.5 counterparts.</p><p></p><p>Again, all this is related to my long range experiences, 500+. If I was hunting elk and figured my shots would be under 500, more likely being 300 or less (most of my timber hunting), then I would have zero issues using a 6.5 anything, and even a 6mm, with the proper bullet. Which in those cases, my personal choice would most likely be a hammer, partition, or other heavily constructed bullet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="codyadams, post: 2464279, member: 87243"] Thank you sir! Ya, that is just how life goes sometimes. A few people on here seem to never admit they don't always hit the mark, and worse yet won't even entertain the possibility that someone else may know more about something, or may have solid data that counters their experiences. I have had much better experiences being open to all opinions, and combine those of others with my own observations to make my decisions and aid in my learning. Part of that, is accepting that I screw up sometimes! That shot was only off by about .75 MOA, earlier that evening there was about a 4ish mph wind moving up the canyon I had been watching, then the elk came out of the patch of timber I knew they were in. In my excitement, I failed to double check my wind and notice that it had dropped off to essentially nothing, and that was enough to do it. I have killed several more elk with that rifle, and came to a couple conclusions. While a smaller 6.5 (say, 6.5x284 or less) absolutely will kill big elk, even at long ranges out to over 900 yards in my personal experience, the bullets that have the bc to retain velocity for expansion, energy, and minimal wind deflection as well as do the needed damage to put them down quickly at those ranges in those cartridges tend to not exit. If a shot goes through the back of the lungs or the liver, it will certainly kill the elk, however they may or may not cover significant ground before they go down, and if there is not an exit, you may have a very hard time tracking. And Murphy doesn't discriminate, eventually, a less than optimal shot will be made. When you get up to the 7mm, or better yet .30 and .338 in the bigger chamberings, you can get enough horsepower behind many types of mono bullets, bonded bullets and others that they will have acceptable performance at long ranges. Even the bigger VLD/EOL/ELD-X and other similar type bullets tend to do a better job at exiting than the smaller 6.5 counterparts. Again, all this is related to my long range experiences, 500+. If I was hunting elk and figured my shots would be under 500, more likely being 300 or less (most of my timber hunting), then I would have zero issues using a 6.5 anything, and even a 6mm, with the proper bullet. Which in those cases, my personal choice would most likely be a hammer, partition, or other heavily constructed bullet. [/QUOTE]
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