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Extreme Long Range Hunting & Shooting (ELR)
338 or 375 EnABELR or alternative cartridge for ELR hunting
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<blockquote data-quote="Paladin300" data-source="post: 2811094" data-attributes="member: 115299"><p>338 Rum AI with a .15-.20 of free bore will drive a 300 grain OTM at 2775 with 91 grains of H1000. For hunting purposes It will drive a 265 ABLR at 2950 and fit inside a Wyatt's box , sectional density of the 265 is .331. Both loads get to 800 yards in a second or less, carry enough energy to kill anything on planet earth out to 1250 yards and stay supersonic to over a mile. With 256 grain Warner tool flatliners the 338 edge is supersonic to over 2200 yards. If I were building a primary hunting rig for browns bears and the occasional ELR non competition I would go 338 RUM +P. If you need to you could shoot factory ammo in a pinch. Oh wait a minute? That is what I did! The above numbers are from a 27" Bartlein barrel. It will out perform the Lapua with 250s. You don't need more. It is a legit 1000 yard killing machine. With the right loads it will stay supersonic to over 2600 yards and can be built on a standard Remington action. If you run the tubb's ring in the Flatliners and twist it 1/8 you could see good accuracy beyond 3000 yards. I don't know why you would want more in a hunting rifle. The 338 RUM, Edge and 375 RUM are perfect for what you want to do.</p><p></p><p>FYI there is not a guide in his right mind that is going to let you shoot a big brown beyond 450 yards. There is nothing worse than to have to go in the bush after a wounded grizzly or brown bear. It is just a hole lot of teeth with a bad attitude and when he decides he is coming there ain't a thing in the world you can do to stop him. You just need to pray you see him before he sees you. Moose are just big and ethically I don't know many guides who would let you shoot one of them beyond 500. If you want to shoot caribou or deer or elk beyond that range knock your self out, but not moose and bears, there is just to much that can go wrong and a wounded bear or moose is not something to play with. The Rums and edge are more than enough and can be built in a great manageable hunting rig that can be used for ELR, just my experience and opinion. Wishing you the best![ATTACH=full]460099[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460100[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460101[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460102[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460099[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460100[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460101[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460104[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460105[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]460106[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paladin300, post: 2811094, member: 115299"] 338 Rum AI with a .15-.20 of free bore will drive a 300 grain OTM at 2775 with 91 grains of H1000. For hunting purposes It will drive a 265 ABLR at 2950 and fit inside a Wyatt’s box , sectional density of the 265 is .331. Both loads get to 800 yards in a second or less, carry enough energy to kill anything on planet earth out to 1250 yards and stay supersonic to over a mile. With 256 grain Warner tool flatliners the 338 edge is supersonic to over 2200 yards. If I were building a primary hunting rig for browns bears and the occasional ELR non competition I would go 338 RUM +P. If you need to you could shoot factory ammo in a pinch. Oh wait a minute? That is what I did! The above numbers are from a 27” Bartlein barrel. It will out perform the Lapua with 250s. You don’t need more. It is a legit 1000 yard killing machine. With the right loads it will stay supersonic to over 2600 yards and can be built on a standard Remington action. If you run the tubb’s ring in the Flatliners and twist it 1/8 you could see good accuracy beyond 3000 yards. I don’t know why you would want more in a hunting rifle. The 338 RUM, Edge and 375 RUM are perfect for what you want to do. FYI there is not a guide in his right mind that is going to let you shoot a big brown beyond 450 yards. There is nothing worse than to have to go in the bush after a wounded grizzly or brown bear. It is just a hole lot of teeth with a bad attitude and when he decides he is coming there ain’t a thing in the world you can do to stop him. You just need to pray you see him before he sees you. Moose are just big and ethically I don’t know many guides who would let you shoot one of them beyond 500. If you want to shoot caribou or deer or elk beyond that range knock your self out, but not moose and bears, there is just to much that can go wrong and a wounded bear or moose is not something to play with. The Rums and edge are more than enough and can be built in a great manageable hunting rig that can be used for ELR, just my experience and opinion. Wishing you the best![ATTACH type="full" alt="C06E6CC1-50C3-4223-8F2D-B3CC34F1D45B.jpeg"]460099[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="71EE5351-0D21-4CF6-8FA4-FF60B4BB8DB0.jpeg"]460100[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="2C9243EA-5CDE-4F46-985C-89DEAB946F0B.jpeg"]460101[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="A861E59D-FA8B-4146-A1CB-58BF6659FAA6.jpeg"]460102[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="C06E6CC1-50C3-4223-8F2D-B3CC34F1D45B.jpeg"]460099[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="71EE5351-0D21-4CF6-8FA4-FF60B4BB8DB0.jpeg"]460100[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="2C9243EA-5CDE-4F46-985C-89DEAB946F0B.jpeg"]460101[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="71F8D8BC-69F7-49A7-BA8B-A53F421AF96A.jpeg"]460104[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="690A84A2-EDED-462E-A4E5-C455F280F539.jpeg"]460105[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="4DB9504E-C175-45AB-857A-8A6223BBAD69.jpeg"]460106[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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