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<blockquote data-quote="4xforfun" data-source="post: 240276" data-attributes="member: 9172"><p>Look.....I don't want to get into a discussion about what works for 1 K compitition. Compitition is a good baromiter for seeing the potential of a given cartrige, but lets be honest......I am convinced that you can get almost any cartrige to shoot well at 1 K. Ok...mayby not the 30-30, 22 mag, ect, but build the right gun, load the proper ammo, and learn to drive it, and almost anything probably could win. Maybe only once in a 100 years, but it could.</p><p> </p><p>As far as my velosity, I have found 4 different nodes. 2780, 2920, 3030, 3190...210 Berger VLD. I used the 2780 load in compitition (I used to think it was 2880, but got a new, accurate chrono). I know, I know.....that is a good 30-06 speed. Kind of a waist of case capasity, but I had 6 fps ES and near zero vertical. I have 2 new BBLs waiting to be chambered, and I am seriously considering the WSM. NOT FOR HUNTIG, BUT FOR 1 K. My hunting load is the 3190. 14 fps ES. All the loads were very close, accuracy wise, but in 1 K, 1/2 inch difference in group size can be the difference between making a shootoff or having lunch.</p><p> </p><p>Again...you can't go wrong with either case. Just don't sit there and tell me that the RUM brass is cheaper when it is actualy more. Don't tell me the RUM is MORE accurate because of the "stupid belt and dumb WBY sholder". It's not. They both will shoot. The drawback with the RUM case is its size (for 1 K comp.) . The trend is smaller 30 cal. cases, not bigger, and the 300 WBY sized cases are loosing ground to the newer WSM.</p><p> </p><p>But, this is a LR hunting fourm......bigger aint so bad!!!! The deer, elk or moose can"t tell the difference between a 5 inch and a 6 inch 10 shot group at 1 K. Or 50 FPS either, for that matter. They CAN tell if your guidance system is messed up <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />D), or if you don't have near enough HP to do the job properly. Improper bullets for the job.....ect....</p><p> </p><p>Learn to shoot, refine your load technique, have an accurate gun, know where your 1st shot out of a cold BBL is headed, and use all of the other stuff out there to aid in making the shot. GOOD rangefiner. Good rest/bi-pod/shooting sticks/whatever. Pocket computer/balistic program/portable weather station. ECT.......</p><p> </p><p>Like I said before....If you biggest worry in life is having to choose between a 300 WBY or RUM, then life is truly good!!!!</p><p> </p><p>I guess since I "BLEW MY COVER" ,I can sign my name to this **** thing.</p><p> </p><p>Good luck</p><p>Tod Soeby</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4xforfun, post: 240276, member: 9172"] Look.....I don't want to get into a discussion about what works for 1 K compitition. Compitition is a good baromiter for seeing the potential of a given cartrige, but lets be honest......I am convinced that you can get almost any cartrige to shoot well at 1 K. Ok...mayby not the 30-30, 22 mag, ect, but build the right gun, load the proper ammo, and learn to drive it, and almost anything probably could win. Maybe only once in a 100 years, but it could. As far as my velosity, I have found 4 different nodes. 2780, 2920, 3030, 3190...210 Berger VLD. I used the 2780 load in compitition (I used to think it was 2880, but got a new, accurate chrono). I know, I know.....that is a good 30-06 speed. Kind of a waist of case capasity, but I had 6 fps ES and near zero vertical. I have 2 new BBLs waiting to be chambered, and I am seriously considering the WSM. NOT FOR HUNTIG, BUT FOR 1 K. My hunting load is the 3190. 14 fps ES. All the loads were very close, accuracy wise, but in 1 K, 1/2 inch difference in group size can be the difference between making a shootoff or having lunch. Again...you can't go wrong with either case. Just don't sit there and tell me that the RUM brass is cheaper when it is actualy more. Don't tell me the RUM is MORE accurate because of the "stupid belt and dumb WBY sholder". It's not. They both will shoot. The drawback with the RUM case is its size (for 1 K comp.) . The trend is smaller 30 cal. cases, not bigger, and the 300 WBY sized cases are loosing ground to the newer WSM. But, this is a LR hunting fourm......bigger aint so bad!!!! The deer, elk or moose can"t tell the difference between a 5 inch and a 6 inch 10 shot group at 1 K. Or 50 FPS either, for that matter. They CAN tell if your guidance system is messed up (:D), or if you don't have near enough HP to do the job properly. Improper bullets for the job.....ect.... Learn to shoot, refine your load technique, have an accurate gun, know where your 1st shot out of a cold BBL is headed, and use all of the other stuff out there to aid in making the shot. GOOD rangefiner. Good rest/bi-pod/shooting sticks/whatever. Pocket computer/balistic program/portable weather station. ECT....... Like I said before....If you biggest worry in life is having to choose between a 300 WBY or RUM, then life is truly good!!!! I guess since I "BLEW MY COVER" ,I can sign my name to this **** thing. Good luck Tod Soeby [/QUOTE]
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