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<blockquote data-quote="TOM H" data-source="post: 553676" data-attributes="member: 306"><p>Here is what I did. I had a 280AI build for the wife I'd picked up a donor was a new Rem 700 from Wal-Mart in 30-06 had a 24" barrel this action was going to be for my 280AI.</p><p></p><p>I haven't shot a 30-06 for about 20yrs and there was new data from Hodgdon for a load was max 60gr/IMR-4350 with 165gr bullet @ 2938fps. I decide to shoot the rifle and get same data and I worked up to that max load with 165gr bullets and I got 2940fps.</p><p></p><p>Instead of building a 280AI I did the 30x280AI with 26" long barrel again with that rifle I worked up to a max load of 60gr/IMR-4350 with 165gr @ 3074fps and in that rifle I went to 62gr for 3148fps.</p><p></p><p>So I decide what if I build a long barrel say 27" 30-06 what kind of velocity would I get so I had a 30-06 build with a 27" Lilja with 1/11 twist barrel and that max load of 60gr/IMR-4350 with 165gr bullet gave me 3105fps. I played around with H-4350 in that rifle and I could get with 180gr partition 2970fps. to me that rifle was better than the 30x280AI accuracy wasn't a problem and honestly I didn't shoot 180gr bullets in the 30x280AI. Now all this happen back in 2007/2008. </p><p></p><p>I never hunted with either rifle it just one of those thing you do sometimes. Myself the gain I got when I compared 30x280AI to the Lilja barrel 30-06 wasn't all than much and I decide I didn't want to waste anymore powder shooting the 30x280AI.</p><p></p><p>I have a new respect for the 30-06 I now shoot a 30-06 with a Bartlein 5r barrel @ 25 1/2" long</p><p>and that max load of 60gr/IMR-4350 give me 3066fps and my deer/elk load with 180gr Partition give me 2893fps.</p><p></p><p>We have a late season cow elk hunt end Nov 1st week Dec I like to hunt if I get drawn so had another 30-06 build used the 30x280AI action for that and the lilja barrel 30-06 action is now a 30-33mag.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure why you don't like belt mag you can have them headspace on the shoulders instead of the belt that what I do. </p><p></p><p>I would buy some bullets you want to shoot and make up some dummy rds if you want I think I've still got some of those 30x280AI cases and you could see how the load density is and I may have a 300mag case just PM me your address.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TOM H, post: 553676, member: 306"] Here is what I did. I had a 280AI build for the wife I'd picked up a donor was a new Rem 700 from Wal-Mart in 30-06 had a 24" barrel this action was going to be for my 280AI. I haven't shot a 30-06 for about 20yrs and there was new data from Hodgdon for a load was max 60gr/IMR-4350 with 165gr bullet @ 2938fps. I decide to shoot the rifle and get same data and I worked up to that max load with 165gr bullets and I got 2940fps. Instead of building a 280AI I did the 30x280AI with 26" long barrel again with that rifle I worked up to a max load of 60gr/IMR-4350 with 165gr @ 3074fps and in that rifle I went to 62gr for 3148fps. So I decide what if I build a long barrel say 27" 30-06 what kind of velocity would I get so I had a 30-06 build with a 27" Lilja with 1/11 twist barrel and that max load of 60gr/IMR-4350 with 165gr bullet gave me 3105fps. I played around with H-4350 in that rifle and I could get with 180gr partition 2970fps. to me that rifle was better than the 30x280AI accuracy wasn't a problem and honestly I didn't shoot 180gr bullets in the 30x280AI. Now all this happen back in 2007/2008. I never hunted with either rifle it just one of those thing you do sometimes. Myself the gain I got when I compared 30x280AI to the Lilja barrel 30-06 wasn't all than much and I decide I didn't want to waste anymore powder shooting the 30x280AI. I have a new respect for the 30-06 I now shoot a 30-06 with a Bartlein 5r barrel @ 25 1/2" long and that max load of 60gr/IMR-4350 give me 3066fps and my deer/elk load with 180gr Partition give me 2893fps. We have a late season cow elk hunt end Nov 1st week Dec I like to hunt if I get drawn so had another 30-06 build used the 30x280AI action for that and the lilja barrel 30-06 action is now a 30-33mag. I'm not sure why you don't like belt mag you can have them headspace on the shoulders instead of the belt that what I do. I would buy some bullets you want to shoot and make up some dummy rds if you want I think I've still got some of those 30x280AI cases and you could see how the load density is and I may have a 300mag case just PM me your address. [/QUOTE]
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