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<blockquote data-quote="Olbeav" data-source="post: 289178" data-attributes="member: 18340"><p>Silvertip, you are a wise man to fully appreciate the attributes of the fine 280.</p><p>The 270 Win. is a great coyote and varmint round and will do yeoman duty on</p><p>deer and antelope, but it is certainly not a elk round, simply because it is</p><p>primarily loaded with 130 grains and these do not have the knockdown punch</p><p>to put a big bull down on the most often offered shot at elk which is quartering to or away from you. I would safely venture there has been more</p><p>elk lost to the 270 than any other gun. Jack O'Conner bragged it up for years</p><p>and he is responsible for more lost game than any other scribe just because</p><p>people took whatever he said as gospel. The 280 has about 7 percent more</p><p>powder capacity when using the 19 and 21 reloader powders, that along with</p><p>the premium 160 and 175 grain bullets now offer from Nosler and others put</p><p>the 280 in a completely higher realm than the 270 ever will be. </p><p>As far as the 06 is concerned it is adequate for deer and elk and really is a </p><p>great round and is a very reloadable round with many options but I just</p><p>happen to prefer it's younger and taller offspring that has proven its</p><p>mettle without any doubt whatsoever!! Many elk hunters are under the impression they must shoot behind the shoulders, most of time that is sensible but that shot has resulted in losing elk at times because you may place a pill between the ribs going in and then out. The proper placement</p><p>is to shoot at is the point of the shoulder or directly above the front leg in</p><p>the shoulder where hydrostatic shock will be in effect not only from your </p><p>premium bullet but also from bone fragments and beleive you me the 280</p><p>has the power to amply the get that job done. Almost all of my elk have</p><p>been taken within 200 yards a great many within 100 yards and handful</p><p>beyond 200 yards. Why beat yourself up with a magnum when there is the</p><p>fine 280 available that will more adequately suffice. It is without a doubt</p><p>a killer from the headwaters!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Olbeav, post: 289178, member: 18340"] Silvertip, you are a wise man to fully appreciate the attributes of the fine 280. The 270 Win. is a great coyote and varmint round and will do yeoman duty on deer and antelope, but it is certainly not a elk round, simply because it is primarily loaded with 130 grains and these do not have the knockdown punch to put a big bull down on the most often offered shot at elk which is quartering to or away from you. I would safely venture there has been more elk lost to the 270 than any other gun. Jack O'Conner bragged it up for years and he is responsible for more lost game than any other scribe just because people took whatever he said as gospel. The 280 has about 7 percent more powder capacity when using the 19 and 21 reloader powders, that along with the premium 160 and 175 grain bullets now offer from Nosler and others put the 280 in a completely higher realm than the 270 ever will be. As far as the 06 is concerned it is adequate for deer and elk and really is a great round and is a very reloadable round with many options but I just happen to prefer it's younger and taller offspring that has proven its mettle without any doubt whatsoever!! Many elk hunters are under the impression they must shoot behind the shoulders, most of time that is sensible but that shot has resulted in losing elk at times because you may place a pill between the ribs going in and then out. The proper placement is to shoot at is the point of the shoulder or directly above the front leg in the shoulder where hydrostatic shock will be in effect not only from your premium bullet but also from bone fragments and beleive you me the 280 has the power to amply the get that job done. Almost all of my elk have been taken within 200 yards a great many within 100 yards and handful beyond 200 yards. Why beat yourself up with a magnum when there is the fine 280 available that will more adequately suffice. It is without a doubt a killer from the headwaters!! [/QUOTE]
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