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<blockquote data-quote="Engineering101" data-source="post: 1273361" data-attributes="member: 63138"><p>So lets talk bullets. I've been hunting since the 1950's and bullets have come a long way since then. The secret to getting DRT with Barnes bullets is to drive them over 3,000 fps. That makes the 168 LRX a bad choice in the 280AI even if you had the twist to use it. I'm not saying it wouldn't kill something at all but wont as good or as quick as light for caliber Barnes bullets. As was already mentioned the BCs tend to suck compared to other choices so I wouldn't use them past 500 yards. A few examples of this light for caliber approach, a friend who hunts moose in Canada every year. This year he hammered a nice bull with his latest setup - a 30-06 running a 130 grain Barnes. I run the 210 TTSX in my 338 RUM. With a double lung shot at 348 yards that load hammered a nice 6X6 bull elk. He hunched up big time when hit and went 20 yards. Same effect on a much smaller Montana whitetail. No meat damage either. I run the 80 grain TTSX in my 6mm Rem. Hopefully that gives you the picture. These bullets are really lethal when traveling 3,200 to 3,500 fps. I use Bergers for practice as they are easy to load for and accurate as anything out there plus have the good BCs - but they suck for hunting as they work really good some of the time. Some of the time isn't good enough for me. The ABLRs are a true long range bullet but are too soft if you happen to be close. So the current best compromise in my opinion are the ELD-Xs. The 162 grainer is a good choice in the 280AI for what you want to do. RL-26 should also work really well. By the way Alliant produces at least three distinct powder families. The original RL-22, RL-25 suck as they drift horribly with temp change. The more stable RL-26, RL-33 family are great powders that provide unmatched performance with moderate temp drift. The third family is the RL-16 and RL-23 which are supposed to be rock solid stable. I favor the RL-26 stuff as the performance is unbeatable and I do load development in the same temps in which the ammo will be used.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Engineering101, post: 1273361, member: 63138"] So lets talk bullets. I've been hunting since the 1950's and bullets have come a long way since then. The secret to getting DRT with Barnes bullets is to drive them over 3,000 fps. That makes the 168 LRX a bad choice in the 280AI even if you had the twist to use it. I'm not saying it wouldn't kill something at all but wont as good or as quick as light for caliber Barnes bullets. As was already mentioned the BCs tend to suck compared to other choices so I wouldn't use them past 500 yards. A few examples of this light for caliber approach, a friend who hunts moose in Canada every year. This year he hammered a nice bull with his latest setup - a 30-06 running a 130 grain Barnes. I run the 210 TTSX in my 338 RUM. With a double lung shot at 348 yards that load hammered a nice 6X6 bull elk. He hunched up big time when hit and went 20 yards. Same effect on a much smaller Montana whitetail. No meat damage either. I run the 80 grain TTSX in my 6mm Rem. Hopefully that gives you the picture. These bullets are really lethal when traveling 3,200 to 3,500 fps. I use Bergers for practice as they are easy to load for and accurate as anything out there plus have the good BCs - but they suck for hunting as they work really good some of the time. Some of the time isn't good enough for me. The ABLRs are a true long range bullet but are too soft if you happen to be close. So the current best compromise in my opinion are the ELD-Xs. The 162 grainer is a good choice in the 280AI for what you want to do. RL-26 should also work really well. By the way Alliant produces at least three distinct powder families. The original RL-22, RL-25 suck as they drift horribly with temp change. The more stable RL-26, RL-33 family are great powders that provide unmatched performance with moderate temp drift. The third family is the RL-16 and RL-23 which are supposed to be rock solid stable. I favor the RL-26 stuff as the performance is unbeatable and I do load development in the same temps in which the ammo will be used. [/QUOTE]
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