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.270 WSM v .300WSM
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<blockquote data-quote="Aussie" data-source="post: 36278" data-attributes="member: 2447"><p>Remingtonman ,</p><p>Unfortunately there's often a lot more to rifle accuracy than just experimentation with loads . In any case , 100 rounds isn't really a lot of experimentation . </p><p>Suggest you try a bedding job first , then if that doesn't work get the barrel recrowned and locking lugs lapped .If it still won't shoot then you'll probably need to look at barrel replacement and action truing .</p><p>Nearly all factory rifles will require bedding properly in order to give CONSISTENT small groups and hold their zero . Remingtons , Winchesters and Brownings are no better than Savages in this regard .To avoid disappointment I have my rifles professionally bedded before they are ever fired .</p><p>If you sell your Savage in the belief that all Winchesters or Brownings automatically shoot small groups then I reckon you could be the disappointed one. My (bedded) Model 70 7mm WSM shoots 1.2 inch (5 shot) groups and realistically I didn't expect much better . My Remington VSSF wouldn't do better than 1.25 inches until rebarrelled .</p><p>If you really hate the Savage then best chance for an accurate WSM rifle straight from the factory would be Tikka or Sako unless you want to spend serious money .</p><p>BTW , I'm glad I wasn't standing nearby when you were shooting 130 grainers out of that thing at 3550 FPS . That has got to be HOT . Could you get a fired round back in the chamber after ejecting ? <img src="http://images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> Factory loads in the WSM's (using Magpro)operate at around 65000 PSI . You can't safely add 250 + FPS with the same powder in these cartridges. They're close to full throttle as is .</p><p>What velocity were your starting loads ? My 7mm shoots a lot better with 140 gn pills at 3150 FPS than 3200 or more . </p><p>Would be in your own best interest to sell the Savage and get a more powerful rifle if safe WSM velocities don't blow your hair back .</p><p></p><p>[ 10-20-2004: Message edited by: Aussie ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aussie, post: 36278, member: 2447"] Remingtonman , Unfortunately there's often a lot more to rifle accuracy than just experimentation with loads . In any case , 100 rounds isn't really a lot of experimentation . Suggest you try a bedding job first , then if that doesn't work get the barrel recrowned and locking lugs lapped .If it still won't shoot then you'll probably need to look at barrel replacement and action truing . Nearly all factory rifles will require bedding properly in order to give CONSISTENT small groups and hold their zero . Remingtons , Winchesters and Brownings are no better than Savages in this regard .To avoid disappointment I have my rifles professionally bedded before they are ever fired . If you sell your Savage in the belief that all Winchesters or Brownings automatically shoot small groups then I reckon you could be the disappointed one. My (bedded) Model 70 7mm WSM shoots 1.2 inch (5 shot) groups and realistically I didn't expect much better . My Remington VSSF wouldn't do better than 1.25 inches until rebarrelled . If you really hate the Savage then best chance for an accurate WSM rifle straight from the factory would be Tikka or Sako unless you want to spend serious money . BTW , I'm glad I wasn't standing nearby when you were shooting 130 grainers out of that thing at 3550 FPS . That has got to be HOT . Could you get a fired round back in the chamber after ejecting ? [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] Factory loads in the WSM's (using Magpro)operate at around 65000 PSI . You can't safely add 250 + FPS with the same powder in these cartridges. They're close to full throttle as is . What velocity were your starting loads ? My 7mm shoots a lot better with 140 gn pills at 3150 FPS than 3200 or more . Would be in your own best interest to sell the Savage and get a more powerful rifle if safe WSM velocities don't blow your hair back . [ 10-20-2004: Message edited by: Aussie ] [/QUOTE]
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