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.223 vs 5.56 Chambers - HUGE bullet jump?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Thomas" data-source="post: 453565" data-attributes="member: 15748"><p>Bookworm,</p><p> </p><p>The accuracy you're getting out of that FMJ stuff is probably about all that you're going to get out of this type of ammo. As I said, 3 MOA is perfectly acceptable for this, and you'd likely see the same groups out of an accurate bolt gun. Bottom line, you can't make crap ammo shoot like NM stuff, period.</p><p> </p><p>A good match-grade bullet will make a tremendous difference here. Varget and RL-15 are the two go-to powders for competitive Service Rifle shooters. Both are good, choice is all yours. If the rifle's already set up with a float tube, it should be capable of MOA or better as is. The trigger's always an issue, but as I said, there's lots of options out there. </p><p> </p><p>Again, forget about the jump, it's not a problem. I'd also strongly suggest you forget about 90% of what you've learned from loading bolt guns; gas guns are differernt, and NEED to be treated differently. If you're really (and I mean REALLY) hung up about the jump, the forget the magazine and accept the fact that you're got yourself a semi-automatic single shot. The LR VLD style bullets are intended to be loaded well beyond mag length, because the 600 and 1000 yard stages of High Power competition require the rifles to be single-loaded. They were never intended to be used from a magazine, and that's how they were designed. Even there, the painstaking approach to seating the bullets .xxx" off the lands is wasted on a Service Rifle. As soon as you ctrip the bolt, you've just soft-seated that bullet, I guarantee you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Thomas, post: 453565, member: 15748"] Bookworm, The accuracy you're getting out of that FMJ stuff is probably about all that you're going to get out of this type of ammo. As I said, 3 MOA is perfectly acceptable for this, and you'd likely see the same groups out of an accurate bolt gun. Bottom line, you can't make crap ammo shoot like NM stuff, period. A good match-grade bullet will make a tremendous difference here. Varget and RL-15 are the two go-to powders for competitive Service Rifle shooters. Both are good, choice is all yours. If the rifle's already set up with a float tube, it should be capable of MOA or better as is. The trigger's always an issue, but as I said, there's lots of options out there. Again, forget about the jump, it's not a problem. I'd also strongly suggest you forget about 90% of what you've learned from loading bolt guns; gas guns are differernt, and NEED to be treated differently. If you're really (and I mean REALLY) hung up about the jump, the forget the magazine and accept the fact that you're got yourself a semi-automatic single shot. The LR VLD style bullets are intended to be loaded well beyond mag length, because the 600 and 1000 yard stages of High Power competition require the rifles to be single-loaded. They were never intended to be used from a magazine, and that's how they were designed. Even there, the painstaking approach to seating the bullets .xxx" off the lands is wasted on a Service Rifle. As soon as you ctrip the bolt, you've just soft-seated that bullet, I guarantee you. [/QUOTE]
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