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223 Varmint rifle, build or buy??
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<blockquote data-quote="packgoatguy" data-source="post: 1283272" data-attributes="member: 27192"><p>So, I am getting resistance about the 223 being a viable 600+ yard cartridge. How about the 308 instead?? With would have quite a bit more energy at the longer ranges than the 223 I guess. I am getting into reloading, and have a lot of empty 308 brass from my son's savage 308...</p><p></p><p>Does anyone have experience with light loads in a 308 that would let it shoot under 400lbs of energy at 50-100 yards? Again, my interest would be in a rifle that would let me shoot coyotes and rabbits out to long range distances as well as rabbits and bunnies at shorter ranges, without destroying the meat. With a 223, a subsonic load will still let me accurately take a rabbit at 100 yards, but will only have a bit more oomph than a 22lr, so it won't destroy the meat with a well placed shot. Could I make a 308 do the same thing? If I loaded a 110 gr 308 to 1100-1300 fps loads, or even subsonic, then I guess it would be possible to do the same thing with a 308. (So I would carry heavy hot loaded rounds for my longer range shots, and then light loaded rounds for the shorter range shots.)</p><p></p><p>If I did go with 308 vs 223, what can I do about recoil? My 13 year old isn't thrilled about the recoil of his 308. Would a muzzle break be worth the extra noise when hunting for small game?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="packgoatguy, post: 1283272, member: 27192"] So, I am getting resistance about the 223 being a viable 600+ yard cartridge. How about the 308 instead?? With would have quite a bit more energy at the longer ranges than the 223 I guess. I am getting into reloading, and have a lot of empty 308 brass from my son's savage 308... Does anyone have experience with light loads in a 308 that would let it shoot under 400lbs of energy at 50-100 yards? Again, my interest would be in a rifle that would let me shoot coyotes and rabbits out to long range distances as well as rabbits and bunnies at shorter ranges, without destroying the meat. With a 223, a subsonic load will still let me accurately take a rabbit at 100 yards, but will only have a bit more oomph than a 22lr, so it won't destroy the meat with a well placed shot. Could I make a 308 do the same thing? If I loaded a 110 gr 308 to 1100-1300 fps loads, or even subsonic, then I guess it would be possible to do the same thing with a 308. (So I would carry heavy hot loaded rounds for my longer range shots, and then light loaded rounds for the shorter range shots.) If I did go with 308 vs 223, what can I do about recoil? My 13 year old isn't thrilled about the recoil of his 308. Would a muzzle break be worth the extra noise when hunting for small game? [/QUOTE]
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