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Coyote Hunting - From 10 Yards to over 1,000 Yards
22 creed or 220 swift
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<blockquote data-quote="VinceMule" data-source="post: 2901911" data-attributes="member: 122164"><p>Norma has a thicker neck, which made the grip on the bullet a lot tighter. Norma is softer than Winchester, with brass flow accentuated.</p><p>So, in your case, I would stick with Winchester or Remington brass, and pay the price on gunbroker or other.</p><p></p><p>Sorry, I can't give you the details you are looking for. I designed a reamer around the Norma brass, then realized that the reamer would be totally unacceptable for Winchester brass, never ordered the reamer.</p><p></p><p>I also believe that there was a difference in Web dia between the Norma and Winchester, but it has been so long, that those numbers left my head a long time ago.</p><p></p><p>Swift factory barrel chambers run on the large size as you are seeing from the split necks issue, I had the same issue. The easiest solution to extend brass life is to use a bushing die, where the brass is not sized way down, then the expander ball pulls the neck back out. Today, the Wilson case trimmer with the case holder and the Wilson inside neck reamer is a winner for cutting out the thickened neck at the shoulder neck junction forward. Also, the Redding bushing neck sizers do not size the base of the neck which is a tremendous help with Swift brass. I was amazed in how some pieces of brass within the same lot number would have necks thickening in various amounts. Obviously, some pieces of brass are softer than others.</p><p></p><p>Again, I would stick with Winchester brass and Remington when and if you can find it due to the load development you have already done with the Winchester brass, Switching to the Norma brass will mandate a new load workup as it has less internal case capacity with a thicker neck which will grip the bullet with more force.</p><p></p><p>Since you have a large neck in your chamber, the thicker norma brass may work in your favor in this regard, but there are other issues with case capacity, Web diameter, and die dimensions that could come back and bite you. </p><p></p><p>I hunted with a guy who carried his ammo in a coffee can, and mixed Rem, Win, and normal brass with the same load, he had some issues with the norma, but rabbits and chucks died just the same. My friend did not get into the accuracy, all he cared about was killing stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VinceMule, post: 2901911, member: 122164"] Norma has a thicker neck, which made the grip on the bullet a lot tighter. Norma is softer than Winchester, with brass flow accentuated. So, in your case, I would stick with Winchester or Remington brass, and pay the price on gunbroker or other. Sorry, I can't give you the details you are looking for. I designed a reamer around the Norma brass, then realized that the reamer would be totally unacceptable for Winchester brass, never ordered the reamer. I also believe that there was a difference in Web dia between the Norma and Winchester, but it has been so long, that those numbers left my head a long time ago. Swift factory barrel chambers run on the large size as you are seeing from the split necks issue, I had the same issue. The easiest solution to extend brass life is to use a bushing die, where the brass is not sized way down, then the expander ball pulls the neck back out. Today, the Wilson case trimmer with the case holder and the Wilson inside neck reamer is a winner for cutting out the thickened neck at the shoulder neck junction forward. Also, the Redding bushing neck sizers do not size the base of the neck which is a tremendous help with Swift brass. I was amazed in how some pieces of brass within the same lot number would have necks thickening in various amounts. Obviously, some pieces of brass are softer than others. Again, I would stick with Winchester brass and Remington when and if you can find it due to the load development you have already done with the Winchester brass, Switching to the Norma brass will mandate a new load workup as it has less internal case capacity with a thicker neck which will grip the bullet with more force. Since you have a large neck in your chamber, the thicker norma brass may work in your favor in this regard, but there are other issues with case capacity, Web diameter, and die dimensions that could come back and bite you. I hunted with a guy who carried his ammo in a coffee can, and mixed Rem, Win, and normal brass with the same load, he had some issues with the norma, but rabbits and chucks died just the same. My friend did not get into the accuracy, all he cared about was killing stuff. [/QUOTE]
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