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<blockquote data-quote="Gerard Schultz" data-source="post: 959289" data-attributes="member: 51"><p>bigngreen,</p><p></p><p> Having looked at your history of posts, I find it difficult to believe that you have used GSC bullets on any game at all. There is no record from you of how GSC performed terminally, going back to the beginning of 2011. </p><p></p><p>I am concerned about this because with every comparison that has been made, using a variety of monos side by side, the comparison result has been very flattering to GSC. I am further concerned that you post as follows:</p><p> The implication is that you have not bothered to fully look at our product. There is much more to it than just more speed. I get the feeling that GSC is being lumped into the bunch of monos manufactured by other makers. The fact is that GSC bullets are different from any other and I am willing to show how. Please forgive my point of view, but there is no other way of saying it. You must consider that I have been getting this from non users of GSC HV products for the better part of 15 years. Once a hunter has used the product, or if he looks into the product more carefully, he sees the differences.</p><p></p><p> I have not shot a single elk or seen one shot by someone using GSC HV bullets. How many African animals have you shot? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>To put things in perspective and so that everyone knows where I come from, a brief synopsys of my experience with firerarms is probably appropriate: I started shooting when I was about 6.</p><p><img src="http://www.gsgroup.co.za/gerardopses.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> I shot my first springbok at the age of eight in 1958 with a 7x57 Oberndorf Mauser with Kynoch 173 gr ammunition. Since then, I hunted on and off until 1979 when I started a gunsmithing and firearms dealer shop. The gunsmith waiting list generally ran about two years. Amongst others, I worked on H&H doubles, Perazzi shotguns and built my share of bench, bisley, custom hunting rifles and race guns for Practical Pistol Shooting. Reloading started in 1976 and currently I have 34 die sets but I have sold and traded many more. I have apprenticed 3 gunsmiths through to their trade test, taught many hundreds of young men to hunt and to reload, and taught classes in defensive shooting. I qualified as a Senior Range Officer and Instructor in IPSC and acted as huntmaster for plains game hunts from 1986 to 2004. For about three years in the mid 90's I culled game for the venison market. All told I have personally shot in excess of 1000 head of (African) game and witnessed the shooting of a couple of thousand more. In 1982 I started casting handgun bullets and gave it up in 1992 when I started turning rifle bullets with CNC. With all this said, I am eternally grateful that I was placed in the right spot at the right time.</p><p></p><p> We care about the same thing, my social skills are probably just not functioning so well. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> Please forgive the appearance and the demeanor, I mean well.</p><p></p><p>gohring3006,</p><p>That is what reloaders and shooters have been doing for decades and, every so often, things go wrong. It is the reason why I started making my own bullets. There are many small improvements that one can make and, maybe some or the other detail does not concern an individual but collectively needs solving and pushing forwards. Your comment is typical of someone who has not compared products finely enough and there is no blame or finger pointing here. I just ask that GSC must not be assumed to be the same as another product. I know what is in the market and I know what the differences are.</p><p></p><p>FEENIX,</p><p>GSC is availble in the USA as well. Gina, my daughter, who has been running GSC in South Africa since 1999, started the USA factory in 2012. We are proud to be as American Made as what it is possible to be and I hope to retire in the USA in the future. What a great country you have.</p><p></p><p>Canadian Bushman,</p><p> If I may be so presumptious, I will answer that question: Because GSC has a better mousetrap and it is no longer required to suffer the recoil of a big caliber to get a job done. There is no doubt in my mind that the bullet will get the job done. What do I base it on? - Countless animals such as black wildebeest, gemsbok, impala and blesbok shot with a .224" 40 gr HV. Many kudu, blue wildebeest and eland shot with a 69 gr .243". Red deer taken at distance with an 85 gr HV and a 26-06. Numbers upon numbers of cape buffalo shot with a 195 gr 9.3x62 and a 200 gr .375". There is even a 6 ton bull elephant shot with a frontal brain shot at 15 paces, with a 160 gr HV from a 300Win Mag. The latter was in self defense by a professional hunter and it is the only example where a brain shot was used.</p><p></p><p>I apologise for the long and wordy post.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gerard Schultz, post: 959289, member: 51"] bigngreen, Having looked at your history of posts, I find it difficult to believe that you have used GSC bullets on any game at all. There is no record from you of how GSC performed terminally, going back to the beginning of 2011. I am concerned about this because with every comparison that has been made, using a variety of monos side by side, the comparison result has been very flattering to GSC. I am further concerned that you post as follows: The implication is that you have not bothered to fully look at our product. There is much more to it than just more speed. I get the feeling that GSC is being lumped into the bunch of monos manufactured by other makers. The fact is that GSC bullets are different from any other and I am willing to show how. Please forgive my point of view, but there is no other way of saying it. You must consider that I have been getting this from non users of GSC HV products for the better part of 15 years. Once a hunter has used the product, or if he looks into the product more carefully, he sees the differences. I have not shot a single elk or seen one shot by someone using GSC HV bullets. How many African animals have you shot? :D To put things in perspective and so that everyone knows where I come from, a brief synopsys of my experience with firerarms is probably appropriate: I started shooting when I was about 6. [IMG]http://www.gsgroup.co.za/gerardopses.jpg[/IMG] I shot my first springbok at the age of eight in 1958 with a 7x57 Oberndorf Mauser with Kynoch 173 gr ammunition. Since then, I hunted on and off until 1979 when I started a gunsmithing and firearms dealer shop. The gunsmith waiting list generally ran about two years. Amongst others, I worked on H&H doubles, Perazzi shotguns and built my share of bench, bisley, custom hunting rifles and race guns for Practical Pistol Shooting. Reloading started in 1976 and currently I have 34 die sets but I have sold and traded many more. I have apprenticed 3 gunsmiths through to their trade test, taught many hundreds of young men to hunt and to reload, and taught classes in defensive shooting. I qualified as a Senior Range Officer and Instructor in IPSC and acted as huntmaster for plains game hunts from 1986 to 2004. For about three years in the mid 90's I culled game for the venison market. All told I have personally shot in excess of 1000 head of (African) game and witnessed the shooting of a couple of thousand more. In 1982 I started casting handgun bullets and gave it up in 1992 when I started turning rifle bullets with CNC. With all this said, I am eternally grateful that I was placed in the right spot at the right time. We care about the same thing, my social skills are probably just not functioning so well. :D Please forgive the appearance and the demeanor, I mean well. gohring3006, That is what reloaders and shooters have been doing for decades and, every so often, things go wrong. It is the reason why I started making my own bullets. There are many small improvements that one can make and, maybe some or the other detail does not concern an individual but collectively needs solving and pushing forwards. Your comment is typical of someone who has not compared products finely enough and there is no blame or finger pointing here. I just ask that GSC must not be assumed to be the same as another product. I know what is in the market and I know what the differences are. FEENIX, GSC is availble in the USA as well. Gina, my daughter, who has been running GSC in South Africa since 1999, started the USA factory in 2012. We are proud to be as American Made as what it is possible to be and I hope to retire in the USA in the future. What a great country you have. Canadian Bushman, If I may be so presumptious, I will answer that question: Because GSC has a better mousetrap and it is no longer required to suffer the recoil of a big caliber to get a job done. There is no doubt in my mind that the bullet will get the job done. What do I base it on? - Countless animals such as black wildebeest, gemsbok, impala and blesbok shot with a .224" 40 gr HV. Many kudu, blue wildebeest and eland shot with a 69 gr .243". Red deer taken at distance with an 85 gr HV and a 26-06. Numbers upon numbers of cape buffalo shot with a 195 gr 9.3x62 and a 200 gr .375". There is even a 6 ton bull elephant shot with a frontal brain shot at 15 paces, with a 160 gr HV from a 300Win Mag. The latter was in self defense by a professional hunter and it is the only example where a brain shot was used. I apologise for the long and wordy post. [/QUOTE]
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