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“My rifle shoots .2s and .3s” ... huh?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jon Bischof" data-source="post: 1800700" data-attributes="member: 879"><p>Varminterror: Thanks for saying what I've been thinking for years! The other marvel of wisdom they trot out: "Anyone can shoot a group like that by accident." I say prove it!--post a photo of a small group you shot by accident that is smaller than what the rifle/ammo combo is capable of. Then I will take you seriously when you point at someone else's tight group and claim it was shot by accident and doesn't really prove what the rifle/ammo combo is capable of shooting.</p><p></p><p>Usually we shoot larger groups than the combo itself is capable of shooting. Does it ever happen that we accidentally shoot a smaller group than the combo is capable of? Theoretically that may be possible; but I want to see it on paper. Show me the accidental group that is smaller than what the equipment itself can deliver if the marksmanship is good and no "accident".</p><p>Here's a statistic to ponder: Those who heap skepticism upon those who post their 0.2's and 0.3 MOA groups--99.95% of them are just not as skilled in marksmanship as those they are nay-saying.</p><p>But I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for them to post pics of "accidental groups" that are better than what the rifle/ammo can really shoot with near perfect marksmanship. I just don't believe their claims are true.</p><p></p><p>But there are guys and rifles and ammo that can do it and do it more than once.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jon Bischof, post: 1800700, member: 879"] Varminterror: Thanks for saying what I've been thinking for years! The other marvel of wisdom they trot out: "Anyone can shoot a group like that by accident." I say prove it!--post a photo of a small group you shot by accident that is smaller than what the rifle/ammo combo is capable of. Then I will take you seriously when you point at someone else's tight group and claim it was shot by accident and doesn't really prove what the rifle/ammo combo is capable of shooting. Usually we shoot larger groups than the combo itself is capable of shooting. Does it ever happen that we accidentally shoot a smaller group than the combo is capable of? Theoretically that may be possible; but I want to see it on paper. Show me the accidental group that is smaller than what the equipment itself can deliver if the marksmanship is good and no "accident". Here's a statistic to ponder: Those who heap skepticism upon those who post their 0.2's and 0.3 MOA groups--99.95% of them are just not as skilled in marksmanship as those they are nay-saying. But I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for them to post pics of "accidental groups" that are better than what the rifle/ammo can really shoot with near perfect marksmanship. I just don't believe their claims are true. But there are guys and rifles and ammo that can do it and do it more than once. [/QUOTE]
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