Fireworks ban

Near Edna, TX 7.4.26
The family gathered by the river, no drought, no bans, one alligator crashed the party but it was small and didn't stick around. One of many. Go big or go home :)

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Varmint Hunter said:
On the brighter side:

We've had a few wildfires here. They weren't gigantic in scope, but they were fierce enough to jump 4 lane divided highways and cover some acreage. What impressed me was how nature brought these areas back. Even badly scorched areas eventually got reseeded naturally and low level growth of all sorts started to return. As soon as some vegetation returned, I saw deer tracks in all the thick ash covering the ground.

Nature certainly is amazing.
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My dad (1920-1981) used tell about the neighborhood farmers (40 to 80 acre truck farms) would get together and burn off huge swaths of farmland! Pastures, wooded areas and crop land!
In the wooded areas, the understory, briars and smaller trees burned out, leaving the established timber room for growth. It also reduced parasites! Fleas, chiggers and ticks!
Burned over pastureland ALWAYS came back thicker and greener!
Cropland always improved with the added ash!
He also told that he and his brother could earn a dime (a nickel each) if they would help push cattle through the community dipping vat!
As the small family farms closed down and sold off, the controlled burns stopped. The Gov't banned dipping vats and the fleas, ticks and chiggers came roaring back.

A "perfect" solution? Maybe not, but that was the "technology" (?) of the day!
....AND IT WORKED!
 
FirstBubba said:
My dad (1920-1981) used tell about the neighborhood farmers (40 to 80 acre truck farms) would get together and burn off huge swaths of farmland! Pastures, wooded areas and crop land!
In the wooded areas, the understory, briars and smaller trees burned out, leaving the established timber room for growth. It also reduced parasites! Fleas, chiggers and ticks!
Burned over pastureland ALWAYS came back thicker and greener!
Cropland always improved with the added ash!
He also told that he and his brother could earn a dime (a nickel each) if they would help push cattle through the community dipping vat!
As the small family farms closed down and sold off, the controlled burns stopped. The Gov't banned dipping vats and the fleas, ticks and chiggers came roaring back.

A "perfect" solution? Maybe not, but that was the "technology" (?) of the day!
....AND IT WORKED!
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Controlled burns are a good thing when done right. Totally different than a large wildfire. We still have controlled burns in our area and they usually do fine but sometimes they do take off and we get called in to get them under control.
 
A normal part of the chaparral that I live in is fire. Some of the native plant species require it. Man, in his infinite wisdom, suppressed it. Now instead of several small fires each season we get monsters due to all of the built-up undergrowth. Which is why when a wildfire is headed in a safe direction they don't try too hard to put it out. Let it burn that undergrowth, get rid of it incrementally with small fires rather than foster another monster.
 
ntsqd said:
A normal part of the chaparral that I live in is fire. Some of the native plant species require it. Man, in his infinite wisdom, suppressed it. Now instead of several small fires each season we get monsters due to all of the built-up undergrowth. Which is why when a wildfire is headed in a safe direction they don't try too hard to put it out. Let it burn that undergrowth, get rid of it incrementally with small fires rather than foster another monster.
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Exactly. I think it was the manzanita and jojoba plant that's been overgrown for decades. If I remember correctly some of the larger wildfires down there the sand actually melted into a glass like formation.
 
IIRC, it was the tree-, bunny-huggers that began to manifest themselves in the hippie 60's.
Their (some of them!) kids grew out of the head bands, psychedelic clothing and sandals, but held to the tree-, bunny- aspect.
That would be the liberal freaks out in California who passed laws against controlled burns, clearing undergrowth, cleaning up deadwood and removing dead standing timber.
As I understand it, those are the major causes of all the wildfires in the western states the last two ot three decades!

I think (?) it was the Paradise (CA) fire where the local government would not allow homeowners to clean up the "dross" (leaves, pine needle, dead wood) least some mouse, bug, spider, endangered roach, salamander or other critter be left homeless.
IIRC, one guy decided "To hell with that nonsense!" and got busy and cleaned up his yard

His house was the ONLY one that didn't burn!
 
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Yep remember in 70's Weyerhaeuser had a checkerboard pattern blocks of timber up in PNW and would setup a clearcut, harvesting the timber, then replanting new trees. The environmental types did everything in their power to stop that process but, today they say nothing when 5 million acres a year, goes up in smoke.
 
I spent about 3 years supporting explosive operations on the Utah Test and Training Range in Utah in the ealry 90's. We blew up all kinds of stuff and I do not recall any large fires that were started in the dry Utah landscape.
 
ntsqd said:
Just stumbled across this, in FL (I had to look it up):
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Yep, just like 88, when they decided to let the Yellowstone NP burn, it's just a lightning strike, act of God. She frikN got a bit outta hand, then the bark Beatles moved in, same old song. Couldn't even walk for all the dead blowdowns, burn area photos were ruff, genius resource management there too.
 
3chester said:
Yep, just like 88, when they decided to let the Yellowstone NP burn, it's just a lightning strike, act of God. She frikN got a bit outta hand, then the bark Beatles moved in, same old song. Couldn't even walk for all the dead blowdowns, burn area photos were ruff, genius resource management there too.
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I remember that year well. I went on my longest, backpack hunt for elk during the fire. We hiked up Crystal Creek, about 1 to 2 miles beyond Gap Pucci's camp!

Those guys in the camp were amazed when we hiked past their camp! memtb
 
I think the problem is based in the fact that humans have messed up the cycle. Which has resulted in excessive fuel for those fires. It's a catch-22, do you let it burn and try to reduce that fuel load down to what it should be, or do you put it out and carry that fuel load into the next growing cycle that will surely add more fuel to the problem? Danged if you do, and danged if you don't.
 
Mrvmax said:
I spent about 3 years supporting explosive operations on the Utah Test and Training Range in Utah in the ealry 90's. We blew up all kinds of stuff and I do not recall any large fires that were started in the dry Utah landscape.
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Yeah. That's because that range is mostly barren except for a little scrub here and there. I've been out on most of the range areas. It's pretty much no man's land out there. I worked Range Control and range cleanup when I wasn't flying.
We also dropped BLU-82 Daisy Cutters out there. Now that's a BIG firework!
 

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