Hi iceman I think the vortex viper pst scopes are the best way to go if you would rather not spend over 2 grand for a night force. I went to the range the other day and sighted in my new Savage hs I shot 6 times two 3 shot groups on same point of aim at 200 yards just under 1.5 inch. This older guy was a 600 yd bench shooter was watching me and giving pointers. I had 3 rounds left and asked him if he would like to give it a go he sent them into a group you could cover with a quarter. so the gun and scope will do better than I can for now.