Have you ever seen this?

[YZ-80]

Hi guys,

I was reading the preferred POI thread, which is interesting and it got me thinking about this buck I shot out back last fall. Look at the tissue coming out of his mouth when I recovered him. This was a steep crossbow shot with an Exodus fixed blade broadhead. I cheated over 4-5" to the right of his spine so I'd be sure to get the lung on his far side. Anyway, I had to get him cleaned up and out of there as the light was waning, so I didn't have much time to do a post-Morten analysis on him. In 25 years of bow hunting, I've never seen this tissue mass come out of the mouth. It's almost as if his esophagus inverted. Thoughts?

 

[philipbrousseau]

Blood clot?

 

[Jon Bischof]

Can you tell us where your entry hole and exit hole is located on the buck?

 

[wv270wsm]

I'd say blood clot too.

 

[belldar]

It's coagulated blood. Blood pooled in the esophagus when the deer died and coagulated. Either cam out when you moved it or was pushed out through stomach decomp. See it quite often on shot dead critters.

 

[YZ-80]

It's coagulated blood. Blood pooled in the esophagus when the deer died and coagulated. Either cam out when you moved it or was pushed out through stomach decomp. See it quite often on shot dead critters.

Really? Not questioning the logic but this thing died within 20 seconds. I can't imagine clotting factors activating so quickly. Maybe if the blood did get into the stomach it came in contact with acid and this hastened the coagulation? Anyway, I do know that the gut was not perforated by the shot. As for @Jon Bischof 's question, the arrow came out basically through the chest cavity on the oppiset ventral side, near where the front leg meets the torso.

 

[belldar]

Really?

Yes! See it all the time. It's coagulated blood (large clot). Blood coagulates where it is when an animal dies. This is a solidifying (think Jello) of the blood to help close up and heal a wound. The Blood doesn't realize the animal is dead And tries to heal while it still has oxygen. I have had blood do this with beef, swine, deer, etc.... right after killing them before I even get them fully gutted you can see this happen.
Coagulation, also known as clotting, is the process by which blood changes from a liquid to a gel, forming a blood clot. It potentially results in hemostasis, the cessation of blood loss from a damaged vessel, followed by repair. The mechanism of coagulation involves activation, adhesion and aggregation of platelets, as well as deposition and maturation of fibrin.

Coagulation begins almost instantly after an injury to the endothelium lining a blood vessel. Exposure of blood to the subendothelial space initiates two processes: changes in platelets, and the exposure of subendothelial tissue factor to plasma factor VII, which ultimately leads to cross-linked fibrin formation. Platelets immediately form a plug at the site of injury; this is called primary hemostasis. Secondary hemostasis occurs simultaneously: additional coagulation (clotting) factors beyond factor VII (listed below) respond in a cascade to form fibrin strands, which strengthen the platelet plug.[1]

 

[shooter0610]

I would agree, Looks like a clot to me, as well. Seen it more than a few times.

 

[Quintus]

Looks to me like severed bronchial tubes and esophagus. Last breaths were pushed through arterial bleeding foaming blood as it made it's way up and out. They will start clotting immediately and if it was pooling as his lungs filled it will get pretty thick pretty quick (immediately).

 

[YZ-80]

Yes! See it all the time. It's coagulated blood (large clot). Blood coagulates where it is when an animal dies. This is a solidifying (think Jello) of the blood to help close up and heal a wound. The Blood doesn't realize the animal is dead And tries to heal while it still has oxygen. I have had blood do this with beef, swine, deer, etc.... right after killing them before I even get them fully gutted you can see this happen.
Coagulation, also known as clotting, is the process by which blood changes from a liquid to a gel, forming a blood clot. It potentially results in hemostasis, the cessation of blood loss from a damaged vessel, followed by repair. The mechanism of coagulation involves activation, adhesion and aggregation of platelets, as well as deposition and maturation of fibrin.

Coagulation begins almost instantly after an injury to the endothelium lining a blood vessel. Exposure of blood to the subendothelial space initiates two processes: changes in platelets, and the exposure of subendothelial tissue factor to plasma factor VII, which ultimately leads to cross-linked fibrin formation. Platelets immediately form a plug at the site of injury; this is called primary hemostasis. Secondary hemostasis occurs simultaneously: additional coagulation (clotting) factors beyond factor VII (listed below) respond in a cascade to form fibrin strands, which strengthen the platelet plug.[1]

Well this certainly sheds light on the situation! Many thanks! I've arrowed many a deer and have many times seen blood coming out of the mouth but never in a gelatenous mass like this. Lern sumtin' every day!

 

[YZ-80]

I forgot to mention that this was on 11/12/20 last fall, pretty much in the peak of our rut. This guy had just chased 2 does out of my food plot and then came into my pine grove, where I nabbed him. He must have been pretty revved up and this might have contributed to his body's protective mechanisms going into overdrive.

 

[Kendoist4162]

Coughed up a lung with lots of clotting. Musta been a smoker... Blood clots much quicker when exposed to air and you have to count the time it took you to get to him. Just my opinion.

 

[YZ-80]

Coughed up a lung with lots of clotting. Musta been a smoker... Blood clots much quicker when exposed to air and you have to count the time it took you to get to him. Just my opinion.

I think he might have been a drinker too. Those does he was on the trail of were pretty fat chicks!

 

[wv270wsm]

After further review I believe it may be the coronavirus