Which scope? Leupy or nightforce?

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by POP, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. POP

    POP Well-Known Member

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    I am torn

    this

    Night Force NXS 5.5-22x56 MLR Milrad


    or this

    LEUPOLD MARK 4 LR/T RIFLE SCOPE 8.5-25 X 50 M1 MIL DOT



    Also not too familiar with the milrad? any insight?
     
  2. NomadPilot

    NomadPilot Well-Known Member

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    I went through this earlier and I'll tell you why I chose NF.

    I was debating the Mark 4 4.5-14 or NXS 3.5-15.


    • Magnification range was close enough to not matter to me
    • Wanted reticle to match turrets. Leupold only offers 0.05 mrad adjustments. I felt like 0.1 mrad was a good compromise and didn't want to go any smaller. I also would not want 1/8 MOA clicks.
    • Leupold has a reputation for quality scopes and outstanding service, and I've experienced the quality service once.
    • NF has a reputation for a bulletproof scope. I didn't read a lot about their service, but what I read was all good.
    • Nightforce is heavier and bigger. Smaller would have been nice, but wasn't a deciding factor
    • NF reticles are all illuminated - extra option on Leupold
    • Of the ones I compared, the NF has about 10 MOA more adjustment. I didn't compare the range on your two models
    • Leupold was cheaper, which may not be your case
    In the end I chose NF for their reputation for quality and ruggedness, the 0.1 mrad clicks, and the lighted reticle. The Leupold TMR reticle is more similar to the MLR than MilDot, and it's available on the 8.5-25. You might look at the 50mm 5.5-22 instead of the 56mm. You could keep it a little closer to the bore and I don't think lose anything.

    Good luck!

    http://www.snipercountry.com/articles/mildot_moa.asp
     
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  3. POP

    POP Well-Known Member

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    When they say all reticles are illuminated do they mean that every NF scope needs batteries. Sorry ....... but that is the only type of illuminated scopes I have ever seen.

    Also can someone explain the NP-1RR Reticle to me? Way too busy reticle. Thank you gents.
     
  4. Mikecr

    Mikecr Well-Known Member

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    I'd go Mk4
    It matches the NXS in every way that matters, (except zero-stop) and;
    It's lighter
    It's lower mounting
    The eyepiece dosen't turn with power changes
    Alumina accessories(like the best flip-up covers ever made)
    Get it custom here: Leupold Mark 4 8.5-25x50mm LR/T M1 Illuminated Reticle Long Range Tactical Rifle Scope Personalized by Leupold Custom Shop FREE S&H LU-RS-M4-85-25x50-LRTM1-IL-Custom-61990, LU-RS-M4-85-25x50-LRTM1-IL-Custom-60065.

    And if you're not even familiar with mils, or mildots, then it doesn't make sense to challenge yourself in that regard.
     
  5. NomadPilot

    NomadPilot Well-Known Member

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    Need? No. The reticle works just fine without them during the day or even I guess on a bright night. The reticle will not light without them, however, like the Trijicons.

    The diameter of each of the circles in the bottom of the reticle is 9" at max power at the stated ranges.
    From the line above the range to the line on top of and tangent to the circle is 18" at the stated ranges.

    Center crosshair to each smaller dot left, right, and down is 4 MOA.
    Center crosshair to where the horizontal line turns thicker is 8 MOA.
    The vertical lines under the left and right dots are 1 MOA through 4 MOA below the horizontal crosshair.
    The dots below the crosshair are at 4, 8, and 15, and 20 MOA holdovers.
     
  6. POP

    POP Well-Known Member

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    great thanx
     
  7. 436

    436 Well-Known Member

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    I have and use both... Both are super scopes; but I do like the Leupold better.
    436
     
  8. POP

    POP Well-Known Member

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    how is the repeatability of the Leupold turrets and tracking????????????
     
  9. jwp475

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    The Leupy has MK lV has 70 MOA of adjustment and the Nightforce has 100 MOA of adjustment. The Nightforce is rated for 1250 G's bothe positive and negetive

    The Nightforce is a rock solid scope that will serve you well. The adjustments are positive and precise and are true MOA and not IPHY
     
  10. 436

    436 Well-Known Member

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    POP,
    The Leupold is spot on in the repeatability department.
    436
     
  11. POP

    POP Well-Known Member

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    This is becoming harder by the minute. Anyway no fights fellas please. I am just gathering info before I spend 1.5K.
     
  12. sp6x6

    sp6x6 Well-Known Member

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    What about a IOR VALADA 3-18X42, LOOKS like a nice scope to me anybody have any thoughts on them, I like the zoom range.
     
  13. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    I agree, I have owned both NXS's and Mark IV's just the detents and the positive stops of the NightForce is enough for me to give the NF the thumbs up. Nothing worse than those tiny little clicks that are not positive.

    I just bought an IOR 6-24 x 50 Tactical with 34mm tube. In my opinion the IOR has a more positive turret than the Mark IV but the NF still has a much nicer turret. If you have to choose between one of the 3 and the price is close. Nightforce all the way.

    POP, go somewhere and get them both in your hand and play with the turrets then you will know.

    Jeff
     
  14. sp6x6

    sp6x6 Well-Known Member

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    Broz, I would like to go somewhere and look at a IOR. The main reason I LIKE IT IS THE lower power setting, because when I come off the ridge it is tight timber. Do you like the larger radius top turret and do you have the mp-8, and finally is it a durable type scope, Thanks