Right on Ric!!
Isn't it hard to see those shots in the "blue"? I had a hard time at 200 yards sometimes and gave up those targets soon after I started using them. I swear, I'm hooked on the white paper with thin black lined bulls for that reason, not to mention they fit in a binder. I hate a shot that blends in with the target. Phil's vidio tape idea is the best I've heard of to at least tell which was which after your done.
Phil,
I'm curious, when you're working up a load, or starting out on one, do you still shoot such a high number in a string? Or just at a point you're feeling good about a load and want to verify it completely?
I'm sure you've seen the recent 3 shot groups I shot with the 30-338. Really, the reason I shot 3 shot groups when I usually shoot 5 or more was, I was really interested in how it would stack up against all the teeny weeny 3 shot groups I always read about, and hell, that was the only way to really tell. It did give me a sense of how my rifle is performing in the hunting rifle/tactical arena anyway, as this is the number of shots most always fired.
I've really seen "very" few targets posted side by side in the order they were shot that would reveal the "consistancy" of the great groups that most post pix of, so i'm still not sure of how mine really compares in the end. Many a gun will shoot a tiny group someone can post a pic of, how many will shoot them same tiny groups one after the other, after the other, after the other I'm still not sure of. If more people that have these truely outstanding grouping rifles, why is it not more pictures are shown of the consecutive groups they produce. I for one usually never shoot one 3 shot group at a range session, probably because I don't shoot out my back door
like Ric and others obviously do, but someone post a pic of several groups they just got done shoooting so I've got some REAL idea how mine's doing.
2050 members on this site and there's less than about two handfulls(?) of guys that I think have posted pix of groups, and less that are consecutively shot.
Heck, if you can't post pics of them, at least measure 'em and tell us how they ended up shooting that day.
I shot some groups here weeks ago now and some were fantastic in my book, but the one that mattered to me was the largest .482" MOA, I really don't know what the average was with this load using the 210 Berger, but from all I can tell, I see the load as consistantly under .5 MOA to start with, most likely quite a bit better as the other groups indicate. Still, I've got to know what I can count on, that's just what is most important to me.
I can look at the 1k BR results and see where I'm at in the aggs, even tho I'm shooting in different conditions as the guys at the various ranges I follow results on, but still, it gives me a good idea of not how I'd place there, but how I'm doing overall compared to a larger sample of shooters at 1k yards. It probably takes me 10 to 15 minutes to run through 10 rounds at 1k yards, and I don't shoot fast, but rather I fire in the most predominant condition at the time I'm shooting and put on the dope needed. In a lot of guys minds, this is not the most successfull way to shoot 1k BR, and swear I'd do better getting them downrange one after the other all in seconds rather than minutes. This is just one thing I consider when comparing my seccess to those then. I still shoot this way though, as this is the way I hunt and what matters to me at this point.
Anyway, post the good, bad and downright ugly results of the day, range fired, wind conditions etc, so we get the whole picture. Then we might all see that either our guns are doing $hity, okay, pretty darn comparable, or outstanding.