The Obama Tidal Wave

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by philny1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. philny1

    philny1 Well-Known Member

    Dec 27, 2006
    Just an e-mail I received. Thought some might find it interesting. You be the judge.


    The Obama Tidal Wave

    We are witnessing a political phenomenon of rare magnitude with Barack Obama. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of 'Change' or that he says he will be a 'Uniter'.

    The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions. On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired millions and the results were catastrophic.

    Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans out there, feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore.

    Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:

    . He voted against banning partial birth abortion.

    . He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.

    . Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.

    . In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.

    . Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as a minimum wage affair.

    . Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.

    . His religious convictions are very murk y.

    . He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    . Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.

    . Opposed the Patriot Act.

    . First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.

    . Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.

    . Supports universal health-care.

    . Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.

    . Supports granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

    . Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.

    . Voted NO to making English the official languag e of the USA.

    . Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.

    . Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.

    . Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'.

    . Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.

    . Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.

    . Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid.

    . He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.

    . He voted No on repealing the 'Death' Tax

    . He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax.

    . Has r epeatedly said the Surge in Iraq has not succeeded.

    . He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.
  2. ol mike

    ol mike Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2005
    All a president needs is an image -he's an image !!

  3. davewilson

    davewilson Well-Known Member

    Feb 19, 2004
    he's got my vote. haven't figured what for yet.
  4. shoenfeld13

    shoenfeld13 New Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    I agree with most of what you said about Obama, but after getting an $18,000 bill for getting my appendix out, I think universal health care is a good thing. I know of too many people who have lost everything later in life because of health care costs. My wife and I have had excellent 'free' medical care abroad by competent doc's.

    Charisma is the biggest thing he has going for him. Hopefully that isn't all he'll need.
  5. britz

    britz Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2007
    Many here aren't going to like to hear this, but I'd describe myself as a conservative liberal. I'm leaning towards Obama--- just for the record I HATE the Liberal stance on gun control and I am a member of the NRA. But I do happen to agree with much of his views and I'd like to get someone with some inteligence into the white house and NOT HILARY.
  6. trh

    trh Member

    Feb 18, 2008
    not an obama fan... but he would be dramatically better than hillary
  7. shorty

    shorty Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2007
    I'm not a Democrat so I wouldn't be voting for him anyway,but if I were the thought of painting a broom on the side of Air Force One might just influence my vote!
  8. Timberbeast7

    Timberbeast7 Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2007
    So you expect me to pay for it?? Nothing is free, somebody pays for it (ie, people who have jobs and pay taxes). By the way, Obama and Hillary's "universal health care" plans don't hand out free health care. They federally mandate that you buy health insurance,....they would make it illegal to NOT BUY insurance, unless you are on welfare or an illegal alien, then everybody else is expected to pay for you as well. Sounds like a good plan to me!:confused: Sadly, we are rapidly approaching full fledged socialism in the USA!
  9. britz

    britz Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2007
    Oh boy, here we go :(
  10. Flybuster

    Flybuster Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2007
    Barrak want's to be the President of the United States, yet he won't even say the pledge or salute the flag. [​IMG]
  11. ilscungilli

    ilscungilli Well-Known Member

    Dec 1, 2005
    The Obama/Hillary plans require you to purchase health insurance. Many people seem to think that if either of these twits get elected that we will all get free health care. Just check out what Obama has on his website and this is very clear (Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Health Care):

    "Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress."

    Hillary has the same "plan" except that you would be compelled by law to purchase some form of coverage, much like car insurance in many states.
  12. Bob33

    Bob33 Well-Known Member

    Feb 19, 2008
    "I'd like to get someone with some inteligence into the white house and NOT HILARY."

    Try "intelligence" and "Hillary".
  13. LewisH

    LewisH Well-Known Member

    May 13, 2007
    Out of a U.S. population of over 300 million, those hapless blowhards, Hillary and Obama, are the best the Democrats can nominate for POTUS?...two socialist pieces of shit? :eek:

    That pretty much tells us all we need to know about the current state of the Democratic Party. :mad:
  14. Bob33

    Bob33 Well-Known Member

    Feb 19, 2008
    "those hapless blowhards, Hillary and Obama, are the best the Democrats can nominate for POTUS?..."

    I agree except the Democratic Party did not nominate them - the people voted them as their top two candidates. Scarier yet.