So many Options, So many Opinions !

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by Richard Owl Mirror, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. Richard Owl Mirror

    Richard Owl Mirror Well-Known Member

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    I finally purchased a Hunting Rifle. I ended up buying a Vanguard Series 2 Synthetic .270 caliber from a private seller. Unfortunately, before selling the rifle to me, he removed the scope & left the rings. Now I need to purchase a Riflescope to match the rifle and the type of hunting I will be doing here in Montana.

    Not knowing much about scopes and all the various options that are offered, I've been reading opinions and reviews of all the scopes in my price range.
    While my head is still swimming over all the types of reticles, MOA, FOV, magnifications etc..., one question kept coming back to me.

    How Good is the WARRANTY of the product?

    I have seen TWO scopes which had identical features yet, one had a Lifetime "NO questions", Transferable warranty. while the other had anywhere from a 90 day to a two year warranty.

    So I decided I should examine as many Companies Warranties and then weed out the companies which didn't stand behind their product with much of a warranty.

    The Companies detailed below were derived from Product Category - Riflescopes at SWFA Riflescopes

    Aimpoint
    Aimpoint guarantees its products to be free from original manufacturer defects in material and/or workmanship under normal use for a period of 2 years for professional or competition use and 10 years for personal use from the date of purchase. The warranty agreement is limited to the original owner and is not transferable. Any warranty claim must be accompanied by a copy of the original receipt showing date of purchase.

    Barska
    LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY - BARSKA® Optics, as manufacturer, warrants this new precision optical product to be free of original defects in materials and/or workmanship for the length of time specified by this warranty. This warranty is limited to the original purchaser and is not transferable.

    Browe
    Limited Lifetime Warranty - BROWE, Inc. warrants every product manufactured by BROWE, to the original registered owner, for a lifetime against defects in material and workmanship.

    BSA
    It is either Limited Lifetime Warranty or 1 Year Limited
    Warranty depending on the model of scope purchased.

    Burris
    FOREVER, LIFETIME and LIMITED WARRANTIES -
    Scopes - rifle scopes, handgun scopes, hunting scopes by Burris Optics
    Forever Warranty – Protects Burris products from any defects in materials or workmanship — even if you are not the original owner. Burris will, at our option, repair or replace the item at no charge.
    Lifetime Warranty – Protects Burris products from any defects in materials or workmanship. Valid only for the original owner. Burris will, at our option, repair or replace the item at no charge.
    Limited WarrantyEither a 1-Year, 3-Year or a 5-Year warranty. If the product is within the warranty period Burris will at our option, repair or replace the item at no charge.

    Bushnell
    Bushnell Outdoor Products guarantees those products to be free of defects in materials and workmanship for the lifetime of the original owner. The exceptions (primarily for electronic products).

    Docter
    DocterUsa will no longer be bringing in the rifle scopes or handling any of the warranty/ Repair for the rifle scopes.
    For Warranty services please contact Germany Direct.

    Elcan
    Elcans offer a 5 year warranty. If return of product to the manufacturer is necessary:
    Return Material Authorization Form must be completed and returned: abrinovec@elcan.com

    EOTech Sights
    Limited Warranty - EOTech warrants every product to be free from defects in materials and workmanship for a period of 2 years from the original date of purchase. EOTech will promptly repair or replace, at its option, any product which is defective in material or workmanship, without charge. All of the costs that are associated with the product shipment will be incurred by the owner.

    Falcon Menace
    All models are now supplied with a Limited Lifetime Warranty covering defects in materials and workmanship.

    Firefield
    Your Firefield product is covered by a 3 year warranty on mechanical parts. This warranty is non-transferable and is only valid if the product is registered within 30 days after the product has been purchased.

    Gamo
    GAMO USA warrants this product (one (1) year limited manufacture warranty) to be free of original defects in material and workmanship. This warranty is not transferable and as such is limited to the original purchaser. This warranty applies only to goods purchased in the United States.

    Hawke
    Limited Lifetime Warranty - The Hawke® Limited Lifetime Warranty is transferable.

    IOR Valdada
    All IOR optics and mounts carry a limited lifetime warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. Be sure to include your warranty and proof of purchase.

    Kahles
    NO INFORMATION - email: info@kahles.at

    Konus
    All Konus riflescopes, pistol scopes, and electronic dot sights carry a Lifetime Replacement Warranty. That's replacement, not repair! It's simply the best warranty in the industry. If you encounter a manufacturer's defect on any of these products, simply send it back to Konus and we will replace it for the life of the original owner.

    Kruger
    Limited Lifetime Warranty - Kruger Optical products are warranted for defects in materials and workmanship.
    Warranty is provided solely to the original owner and is not transferable.

    Leatherwood
    HI-LUX INC Warranties it's products against defects arising from faulty workmanship, or materials, for the Lifetime of the Original Purchaser. Electronics have a limited 1 year warranty.

    Leica
    For questions about Leica products: E-mail: technicalinfo@leicacamerausa.com

    Leupold
    Click below to see the full details of the appropriate warranty.
    Product Service | Leupold
    •Full Lifetime Guarantee
    •Limited Lifetime Warranty
    •Limited Electronics Warranty
    •Tactical Warranty

    Meopta
    E-mail: customerservice@meoptausa.com

    Millet
    The Millett family sold their company to Bushnell, who continues to make Millett mounts, sights and other shooting items as part of the Bushnell family.

    Minox
    From the date of registration, your product will be protected against manufacturing defects and functional failures for a duration of 30 years. Please remember, your product must be registered within 30 days from the date of purchase.

    Mueller
    Limited Lifetime Warranty - If at any time during the warranty period a Mueller scope is found to have a defect in material or workmanship, Mueller will, at our discretion, repair or replace it free of charge. The warranty is transferable and we do not require a registration card to be completed, we only require a copy of the original receipt, which must be from an “Authorized Mueller Optics Dealer”. Please be sure when transferring the Scope to another user that a copy of the original purchase receipt is also transferred. This warranty only applies in the United States.

    NcStar
    All NcSTAR optics are warranted and protected from defects in materials and workmanship for the lifetime of the product. If any NcSTAR product is found to have defects in materials and workmanship, New Century NcSTAR Inc., at our discretion, will repair or replace the product. If the product was purchased within 90 days, a copy of Proof of Purchase is required. If the product was purchased over 90 days, a $10 handling fee must be made payable by check or money order to NcSTAR. A Return Merchandise Authorization (RMA) must be issued before returning the product. NcSTAR accessories are warranted and protected from defects in materials and workmanship for ONE year. A copy of proof of purchase must be provided.

    Nikko Stirling
    Limited Lifetime warranty

    Nikon
    Full Lifetime Warranty - Nikon stands behind its products by offering the best consumer protection in the shooting sports industry.

    Optisan
    Warranty - 2 years

    Pentax
    The PENTAX "Worry-Free" Warranty is available on all PENTAX Sport Optics products purchased in the United States, on or after January 1, 1990 from an authorized PENTAX Sport Optics dealer.

    Premier Reticles
    Premier Rifle Scopes are warranted by Armament Technology
    Incorporated. please contact us at support@armament.com

    Pride Fowler
    Pride Fowler Industries, Inc. (PFI) provides a Lifetime Warranty for our products and warrants that each product is to be free of any manufacturer's defects and in good working order for the product's lifecycle whether purchased from PFI or an authorized PFI business partner. You may obtain warranty service by delivering this product to PFI along with proof of purchase. The above warranty applies to products sold on or after January 1, 2008.

    Redfield
    “No Excuses” Warranty, No Hassle, no excuses.

    Schmidt & Bender
    All carry a 30 year warranty. Virtually all repairs are handled, through us, in Germany under the factories control. If the need for service comes at a time when a loaner scope must be sent to you we will do so until your repaired scope has been returned to us. This will keep you in the field. We will loan you a scope of the same model, but it may have a different reticle if your reticle is not available.

    Sightmark
    Your Sightmark product is warranted free of defects in materials and workmanship with the Sightmark Limited Lifetime Warranty.
    For night vision products, the image intensifier tube and the digital imaging sensor that enables night vision capability is warranted to be free from defects for a period of 3 years, as are other light emitting devices such as laser diodes and LED's. This warranty is non-transferable and is only valid if the product is registered within 30 days after the product has been purchased.

    Sightron
    We are so confident in the quality of our products that Sightron offers a “Lifetime Warranty”. Should your Sightron product ever fail due to workmanship or materials , simply return it to Sightron and we will repair or replace it at our option.

    Simmons
    Your Simmons® product is warranted to be free of defects in materials and workmanship for the lifetime of the original owner. Any return in the U.S. or Canada made under this warranty must be accompanied by A check/money order in the amount of $10.00 to cover the cost of postage and handling.

    Steiner
    Warranty 30-Year

    Swarovski
    SWAROVSKI OPTIK offers a lifetime warranty on the optical system of our products for products purchased by US residents from an authorized SWAROVSKI OPTIK North American dealer.SWAROVSKI OPTIK warrants all other parts of the instrument for ten years from date of purchase against defects in materials or workmanship, subject to normal use. All electronic components are warranted for two years against defects in materials and workmanship, subject to normal use, from date of purchase.
    “Any SWAROVSKI OPTIK product that is purchased in the U.S. that is not imported by SWAROVSKI OPTIK North America and not sold to a consumer by an Authorized U.S. SWAROVSKI OPTIK North America Dealer has no Authorized Warranty.”

    SWFA
    Lifetime Warranty

    Swift
    Each Swift Riflescope and Pistol Scope is backed by the Swift Lifetime Warranty. Offering superior service support and insuring your product is protected against defects in materials and workmanship for a the life of your product.

    Tasco
    This company has actually gone out of business so if you purchase a Tasco scope you should know that you’re sort of buying at your own risk since there is no way to take advantage of any kind of warranty.

    Trijicon
    Trijicon warrants that products manufactured by Trijicon will be free from defects in material and workmanship for the lifetime of the original owner. Trijicon will repair or replace (at our option) the registered product.

    Truglo
    Since the length of the warranty may vary (up to a limited lifetime warranty), please see the product packaging for the specific details. If a product is not marked with a specific warranty, we will guarantee it to be free from defect for ninety days from purchase.

    US Optics
    "Full lifetime" and transferable

    Vism
    All VISM Optics are covered for the Life of the Product, backed by America's best Warranty. If your VISM product fails in any way due to defect in materials or workmanship we will replace or repair the product at our option, free of charge.

    Vortex
    The VIP stands for a Very Important Promise to you, our customers. We will repair or replace your Vortex product for any reason at NO CHARGE TO YOU. It doesn't matter how it happened, whose fault it was, or where you purchased it. You can count on the VIP Warranty for all riflescopes, binoculars, spotting scopes and monoculars.
    ◦Unlimited Lifetime Warranty
    ◦Fully transferable
    ◦No warranty card to fill out
    ◦No receipt needed to hang on to
    If you ever have a problem, no matter the cause, we promise to take care of you.

    Weaver
    Weaver Service and Support Limited Lifetime Warranty: Weaver warrants this product to be free of defects in materials and workmanship for as long as it is owned by the original owner. Weaver will repair or replace (at Weavers' option) any such defective product when it is returned by the original owner with a copy of the original receipt. The repair or replacement will be without charge except for reasonable shipping, handling and insurance charges.

    Zeiss
    Limited Lifetime Transferable Warranty - Only products imported by Carl Zeiss Optical, Inc. and purchased in the United States or Canada from authorized Carl Zeiss Optical, Inc. dealers carry this Limited Lifetime Transferable Warranty. Carl Zeiss Optical, Inc. will not provide warranty service for products purchased through unauthorized dealers.

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    So, after going through all that, I believe I will be selecting a Vortex Product. Vortex Optics - Riflescopes
    Or perhaps I might buy a Redfield Rifle Scope. http://redfield.com/riflescopes/

    Now I just need to figure out which scope is best for my application ! Any advice is welcome. I will be hunting in South-Western Montana, where there are long prairies as well as mountains & valleys. Since this is my first time hunting, I am unsure whether I will be taking a 500 yd. shot or less. I have a Deer Tag as well as an Elk tag.

    I hope the above list helps others in making a decision for any future purchases. The one issue in my mind is TRANSFERABILITY. Anyone buying or selling a used scope should be aware if the warranty will apply to them.
    Plus, I would think having a scope which is transferable to another owner would be good for resale value. There might be a good used scope for sale but, if there isn't any warranty once you buy it. You are libel for any repairs which could end up costing you as much as having bought a brand new scope with a warranty.
    At least that is my opinion. lightbulb
     
  2. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Whew, that gave me a headache! :D

    Bruce Ventura (Bruce winker) is a site sponsor and resident subject matter expert. He wrote a very nice guide in his website, check it out at >>> High Power Optics

    Good luck!

    Ed
     

  3. Jon Jackoviak

    Jon Jackoviak Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget the Clearidge Optics. Full Lifetime Warranty.
     
  4. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    Good to see Konus has the best warranty in the industry. I have an M-30 8.5-32x52 on my 5R .308 Win. Been on there since Jan 2012. Has been an excellent scope so far. Also love my Kahles, Zeiss, Simmons, Tasco, & Nitrex scopes. The Kahles has the clearest sharpest glass. But the Zeiss scopes are my favorite all-around for hunting & target shooting.

    My next scope will be a Vortex Viper HS Long Range FFP 6-24x50. Figured I've tried most of the common brands out there, why not give the Vortex a shot.
     
  5. Richard Owl Mirror

    Richard Owl Mirror Well-Known Member

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    LOL sorry for the Headache !
     
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    Richard Owl Mirror Well-Known Member

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    Good to know. They weren't listed on the source I used.
     
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    Skidro Well-Known Member

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    I have this exact Vortex scope. I would highly recommend it to anyone.
     
  8. Richard Owl Mirror

    Richard Owl Mirror Well-Known Member

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    Viper HS LR 6-24x50 Riflescope — First Focal Plane

    Yes, many if not most of the companies have good to superior warranties.
    I went through this process because my funds are limited and wanted to spend my money wisely.

    I did end up buying the Diamondback 3-9x40 Riflescope with the Dead-Hold BDC Reticle for $199

    I know most other, more high quality scopes would be better and carry the same warranty but, like I said I'm on a low-income budget and this is my first time hunting. The sales person said for my usage and budget, this scope would be my best bet.

    I believe the most important aspect of any warranty, even if it says LIFETIME is whether it is Transferable to a potential secondary buyer.
    Scanning through the whole list I presented, I believe there are only 4 companies which state TRANSFERABLE. That means when I am ready to upgrade, the resale value will stand up because the warranty is transferable to the new owner, no questions asked.
    I believe that is an important point for those buying a used scope.
    At least it would be for me. Even with that said, some companies say you must include the sales receipt when selling to another person.
    Who keeps a sales receipt for 5-10-15 years ?
     
  9. Richard Owl Mirror

    Richard Owl Mirror Well-Known Member

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    I looked at this scope as well but, the sales person said for ME, spending the extra money wouldn't give me any more benefit.
    I'm certain it would to a more experienced shooter or hunter.
    And the warranty is probably the best to be found on the market.
     
  10. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    I like the Vortex HS LR FFP 6-24x50, but I still will always want to spend that extra money for a Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 MOAR reticle.

    It sucks when you're in the lower income bracket, but the only scope you really want costs 1/11th of what you make a year (after taxes, of course). LOL