Savage 12 BVSS rebuild

[nksmfamjp]

I have a Savage 12 BVSS 300 wsm that gives me ~ 0.75 moa groups at 100 yds in its current form...laminate stock...14 lbs

I would like to modify it to be more of a 10-12lb long range hunting rifle capable of under 0.5" @ 100 groups....0.3" would be ideal though. I think this means install a good prefit barrel, chassis, trigger upgrade with AICS mags and finally a good brake or long term a suppressor.

First, I'm wondering if you know where I can get a gunsmith to build me a fully chambered 300 WSM barrel for me to install? I would like a Kreiger or Proof blank, heavy varmint (4-5lbs at 26"), muzzle threads....Option #2 looks like I can order that from McGowen or X-Caliber for $400ish this weekend. How can I get what I want....ideally under $600?

Also, anybody running the Oryx chassis? I'm really put off by the lack of side mount QD's on this thing! Any other issues? Otherwise, it looks great! Might have to fit a real recoil pad on it for a 300! Do these things work, or do I really need to drop a $1000?

Also, I'm thinking I would put the APÁ Little Bastard brake on this. Other better options?

Please help!

 

[johnnyk]

I have a 112BVSS, originally in .300WinMag, single shot, that I eventually shot the barrel out. In March I order a Pac-Nor, 28", 9T, 5L, S/S SM, Savage small shank, Varmint pre-fit and it arrived in April. Final tally, tax, shipping and barrel; $528.34 and does not include necessary (to me) Go gauge ($28.50 @ Northland Shooters Supply).
I used a Witt Machine clamp on brake on the OEM barrel with a slip on recoil pad. These two items took recoil down to a very tolerable range.
Even though it's a Varmint profile, it's not the same diameter as the OEM and I order another Witt Machine brake.
Let me say, I didn't have any prior experience with Pac-Nor barrels but I will have future dealings with them. This is a great shooting barrel! I'm getting 2-3" groups from 600-1000yds. Anything closer is tighter, with 100yd groups @ .3 or better. This is with the 215gn Bergers and 212gn ELD-X's. I'm averaging 3070fps with the Hornady's.
I just installed a Pachmayr recoil pad but haven't shot it with it on, yet.
I also used the Ryan Mantha reamer in my chamber and that let me seat the 212/215gn bullets out a little farther. This helps A LOT and let's the .300WinMag walk the walk and talk the talk.

(some on here with scoff at the Witt Machine brakes, don't believe it, fake news! )

 

[nksmfamjp]

I have a 112BVSS, originally in .300WinMag, single shot, that I eventually shot the barrel out. In March I order a Pac-Nor, 28", 9T, 5L, S/S SM, Savage small shank, Varmint pre-fit and it arrived in April. Final tally, tax, shipping and barrel; $528.34 and does not include necessary (to me) Go gauge ($28.50 @ Northland Shooters Supply).
....

Dang 1 month? Did you order from Pacnor?

 

[IanCo]

I have a 112 FVSS that I intend on rebuilding also. I am probably going a different direction than your build. I am hoping to get an 8lb finished rifle for hunting and some steel plunking. Probably going with McMillan or B&C light tactical stock of some sort with a Proof Carbon Fiber barrel. Waiting a little bit to decide on 6.5-284 or the new 6.5 RPM cartridge.

Mostly jumping in to maybe learn what others offer for advice on your build.

 

[Ndfarmer]

Northland shooters supply and bugholes.com. Both have been great to work with and have had fast turnarounds. Plus the barrels have all been awesome. If you have a little more time McGowen has made 3 barrels for me that also shoot lights out.

 

[johnnyk]

I ordered directly from Pac-Nor for that barrel. The guy that I talked to told me approx. 7-8 weeks when I gave them the deposit ($225, on 3-14-19) so I was pleasantly surprised when I got a notice that my bank account had been drafted ($225 + $38.17 S&H & ins.) roughly four weeks later (4-19-19).

I also ordered a 26", 6mmBR, 8t Shilen barrel from Northland Shooters Supply on 3-5-19, received it on 3-19-19 and it has been a shooter also. I shot my first competition with it about 5 days after it arrived and came in 2nd (1st loser! LoL). They had several of those barrels in the clearance column but are gone now. James is a great guy to deal with and continually has great deals. Check NSS out. I wouldn't be scared to try one of the Savage take off barrels for a LR, lightweight budget build.

 

[William Cameron]

I ordered directly from Pac-Nor for that barrel. The guy that I talked to told me approx. 7-8 weeks when I gave them the deposit ($225, on 3-14-19) so I was pleasantly surprised when I got a notice that my bank account had been drafted ($225 + $38.17 S&H & ins.) roughly four weeks later (4-19-19).

I also ordered a 26", 6mmBR, 8t Shilen barrel from Northland Shooters Supply on 3-5-19, received it on 3-19-19 and it has been a shooter also. I shot my first competition with it about 5 days after it arrived and came in 2nd (1st loser! LoL). They had several of those barrels in the clearance column but are gone now. James is a great guy to deal with and continually has great deals. Check NSS out. I wouldn't be scared to try one of the Savage take off barrels for a LR, lightweight budget build.

I had the same experience with Pac Nor, I ordered a 30" 7 Twist Med Palma in 6.5 PRC for a Savage 110, and it took 4 weeks. NSS does have a great supply of barrels and he pretty much has an Idea what Shilen has in stock as far as blanks go. Can't really go wrong either way.

 

[Gregg C]

Just had my first experience with NSS. Very pleasant. Will be calling them again.

 

[ronstone09]

I have a 112BVSS, originally in .300WinMag, single shot, that I eventually shot the barrel out. In March I order a Pac-Nor, 28", 9T, 5L, S/S SM, Savage small shank, Varmint pre-fit and it arrived in April. Final tally, tax, shipping and barrel; $528.34 and does not include necessary (to me) Go gauge ($28.50 @ Northland Shooters Supply).
I used a Witt Machine clamp on brake on the OEM barrel with a slip on recoil pad. These two items took recoil down to a very tolerable range.
Even though it's a Varmint profile, it's not the same diameter as the OEM and I order another Witt Machine brake.
Let me say, I didn't have any prior experience with Pac-Nor barrels but I will have future dealings with them. This is a great shooting barrel! I'm getting 2-3" groups from 600-1000yds. Anything closer is tighter, with 100yd groups @ .3 or better. This is with the 215gn Bergers and 212gn ELD-X's. I'm averaging 3070fps with the Hornady's.
I just installed a Pachmayr recoil pad but haven't shot it with it on, yet.
I also used the Ryan Mantha reamer in my chamber and that let me seat the 212/215gn bullets out a little farther. This helps A LOT and let's the .300WinMag walk the walk and talk the talk.

(some on here with scoff at the Witt Machine brakes, don't believe it, fake news! )

Pac not makes quality barrels as I have had several ! They are located in Brookings. Oregon

 

[nksmfamjp]

Well....PacNor, Shilen Rachet from NSS, McGowen 5R or X-Caliber....What should I choose?

How many lands & grooves, what twist rate, heck what WSM caliber!!!

I'm 90% that I want 300 WSM shooting 220 ELD-X bullets, but 6.5x300 WSM could be fun! Nah 300....

So, I'm thinking 1:9 or 1:8 twist, in case it shoots best in the 2600-2700 FPS range.

So, 5R, 4 rachet, 3, std 6, how do you choose lands and grooves?

Which can shoot?

Northland shooters supply and bugholes.com. Both have been great to work with and have had fast turnarounds.

a little more time McGowen has made 3 barrels for me that also shoot lights out.

 

[Ndfarmer]

I'm no expert on which lands and grooves to pick I just went with 6 groove in 1/10 6mm ackley, 5 groove in 28 Nosler 1/8. McGowen barrels. 1/8 5R bartlein 7saum from bugholes, 300 rum 1/10 5R Krieger, and I don't remember what the criterion barrels from northland are. All barrels have been shooters and can outshoot me. Hopefully someone with some knowledge can help you out.

 

[Barrelnut]

IMO, if looking for the best for a prefit barrel, I would call Bugholes and order a Bartlein with 5R rifling. Main reasons are all of the others: Criterion, Shilen, Pacnor, X-Caliber, are button rifled barrels.
A cut rifle barrel from Bartlein will more than likely be the straightest, have the most consistent bore diameter, and the most consistent rifling. The lapping will be beyond reproach, and the lapping and 5R will make for the least fouling and easiest to clean barrel. The cut rifling will have the least stress in the steel of all of them and be the least likely to walk the POI as the barrel warms up. These are just differences between cut rifled and button rifled that are hard to ignore. Depending on the rifle you put them on, there may be no determinable difference, but the Bartlein would probably have the most potential.
Would also get a machined recoil lug and barrel nut from Jim at NSS.

 

[Barrelnut]

I have a Model 12 VLP in 300 WSM. Changed the stock to an HS Precision and changed the barrel to a Savage Magnum profile to lighten it up a bit. The Model 12 actions are really nice aren't they.

I shoot the 195 VLD Berger with Norma brass at 2950 FPS in mine. I think a 220 ELDX would take up a lot of the powder column in a 300 WSM short action. Might be better to shoot a 180~190 class bullet. I also have McGowen 300 WSM barrel with a long throat that allows to seat the bullets out further. I like to run 210 VLDs in it. I have to single shot load it though.

 

[John Klingenberg]

I have a Savage 12 BVSS 300 wsm that gives me ~ 0.75 moa groups at 100 yds in its current form...laminate stock...14 lbs

I would like to modify it to be more of a 10-12lb long range hunting rifle capable of under 0.5" @ 100 groups....0.3" would be ideal though. I think this means install a good prefit barrel, chassis, trigger upgrade with AICS mags and finally a good brake or long term a suppressor.

First, I'm wondering if you know where I can get a gunsmith to build me a fully chambered 300 WSM barrel for me to install? I would like a Kreiger or Proof blank, heavy varmint (4-5lbs at 26"), muzzle threads....Option #2 looks like I can order that from McGowen or X-Caliber for $400ish this weekend. How can I get what I want....ideally under $600?

Also, anybody running the Oryx chassis? I'm really put off by the lack of side mount QD's on this thing! Any other issues? Otherwise, it looks great! Might have to fit a real recoil pad on it for a 300! Do these things work, or do I really need to drop a $1000?

Also, I'm thinking I would put the APÁ Little Bastard brake on this. Other better options?

Please help!

I have almost exactly what youre trying to build in a different caliber. The recoil pad is pretty substantial on the Oryx. I did not like the pistol grip but any AR grip will fit. No side slots but theres a ton of offset M-Lok style adaptors to put a sling where you need it. You'll be needing AI style mags that are going to cost you unless they feed fine from a 308 size mag. I'm waiting on a pre fit from Hart. Don't laugh at that skinny barrel in my pics. It shoots like a match barrel. (Box stock Savage barrel in 223) They told me 8 weeks when everyone I called said 20++ weeks. Northland, Kreiger, Shilen, McGowen and several others are all the same wait. Any of them will make you a knock out great barrel if you have the patience. I have several of each.
PIC NOTES: The orange pasters are 1 inch across. The 4 shot group above the one pic is a 69 grain Sierra behind H414, the group a little right in the other pic is a 53 grain Sierra behind H-380 at 275 yards. Im waiting on that Hart barrel in 224 Valkyrie with a 6 twist. Hart will do any contour if you just tell him what the specs are. If you send a few of your favorite cartridges sans powder he will chamber accordingly. Mine in bead blasted stainless' light palma countour, threaded muzzle at 24" is 550.00