My bros 1st LR deer on a budget. PICS.

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by jcoop, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. jcoop

    jcoop Well-Known Member

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    Times are tough! My bro (.30ultramag on here) and I have been scrambling to get him ready for this year’s blacktail hunt. He has always hunted with a handgun but recently (3 years or so) caught the long range rifle bug and practicing a lot with my dads .308. We put together his 300rum over the last 6 months from a hodgepodge of parts found new and used on the web and parts we made. All done on a pretty tight budget.
    Below is a list of parts and prices involved in the build.
    Stevens 7mm rem. Mag. $269.00 new
    Precision recoil lug $30 new
    Choate ultimate varmint stock $80.00 used
    Muzzle break $40.00 new
    Barrel savage take off $50.00 new
    Carbon fiber for tension barrel tube $0.00 scrap from work
    Sold the 7 mag barrel for $50.00
    So he only has $419 invested in a very capable rifle.
    We already had the scope, base, and rings.
    All work, tension tube, muzzle break install, barrel install, bedding, trigger work, etc. done by us.

    He was hoping to shoot the 240smk (elk and deer) but we could not get them to shoot. So as time got closer we decided to test the 180smk as I had some I was using in my 300wsm. They shot very well and we settled with them. I think we will try the 210SMK next as the bc is high per its weight and we liked the way the 180 performed. We made our drops and they worked very well.
    Time to hunt.
    Day one started out very promising as others in our group saw some nice 4x4 bucks further than they wanted to shoot (not long range guys (yet)). My bro and I saw some small forks but nothing to shoot at. At the end of the day we were walking out of the area and were stopped by a game officer. He informed us that the DNR land we were hunting on (for about 8years now) is closed to hunting as it is a grass lands preserve and they do not want hunters in there walking around on the grass. WHAT!! He was very nice and agreed it was totally bogus as they allow hiking in there. Greenies at work! We were not sighted but told not to come back.
    So that night was spent scrambling to find another place to hunt. Mostly private land in this area. the next few days were pretty weak as we were trying to find a decent place mid season.
    On day 4 we were allowed to go in on some private land that we have hunted for a while. We walked in to a setup area where we could watch across the canyon with a closest shot about 600yards. By 8am we had a herd of 9 deer grazing across the canyon, we could tell there were 2 bucks but could not tell through the sparse fog if they were legal (3point min). The heard bedded down in a very small draw with only one doe visible. We watched these deer for 5hrs, and about 1:00pm one of the bucks came out and bedded down in front of the doe. They would not move for over a hr. During this time we studied this buck and decided without a doubt that he is a big bodied fork with an eyeguard on one side. Finally the doe stands up and walks off. He just lays there with about 6” of his back exposed through the grass. I had already ranged him with my Nikon 1200 gold at 755 yards. My brother dialed in the 15 ¾ moa I checked for wind (maybe 1mph) and got set. We were worrying about the wind picking up as it usually does in the afternoon there. He put the crosshairs on the top of his back figuring he would either get a spine shot or a clean miss. He fired and I saw a clean miss inches over his back but dead inline. The buck stood up walked 10 steps and stopped. He reloaded and sent another straight into his lungs. It was a perfect shot, the buck stood there for about 5 seconds and fell. The other buck walked out of the draw. He had a noticeably bigger rack but I could not guarantee him to be legal so I watched him walk away. I am 99 percent sure he was a wide 3x2.

    We were both so excited, he was actually shaking. Not the norm for him. One thing he said was “Anyone that says it is not as exciting shooting them at long range has obviously never done it”. He has killed bigger deer at 15’ with a revolver and not been as excited. I suspect the 6hrs of suspense probably helped with the excitement.
    He spent the next 3 hrs getting to his deer as I watched from the bottom of the canyon (He did the same for me last year).
    The 180smk hit a rib on both sides and left a 2”+ exit wound and the lungs were nowhere to be seen just mush. I will have pics of that soon.
    Before this season I came up with my new philosyhy on hunting. “The meat is the reward the rack is the bonus and the shot is the trophy.”
    It was a great year. Sorry about the cellphone pics
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    Wow. Sorry that was so long.
     
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  2. kiwi3006

    kiwi3006 Well-Known Member

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    Nicely done, 755 is good shot, just goes to show what can be done on a budget.

    What is a tension barrel tube?

    Stu.
     

  3. HRstretch

    HRstretch Well-Known Member

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    Great story and photos, tell us more about the tension tube?
     
  4. .30ultramag

    .30ultramag New Member

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    Thanks little brother for posting the pictures for me. First time I've seen them since our hunt. Wow that really was a long way out there! C'mon! Did you really have to tell everyone that I was shaking? Oh and I don't think that the first shot was hardly worth mentioning. Good Times!
     
  5. jcoop

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    This link kinda gives you the idea of what we are doing Tension Barrel Project album | Rbertalotto | Fotki.com . This is not my project just an example. Only we are using a carbon fiber tube because of its stiffness and weight, sporter weight barrels and a muzzle break as the tension nut. I have done 4 of these now and have had good increases in accuracy. All are .5 moa or better now with factory savage barrels.
    here is a pic of one of the 1 1/8" tubes
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  6. HUAINAMACHERO

    HUAINAMACHERO Well-Known Member

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    Your new philosophy is spot on!!! I like it. Congrats on the buck, and specially to your brother on the shot he took. Enjoyed reading it.
     
  7. HRstretch

    HRstretch Well-Known Member

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    So the sporters barrel is floated inside the carbon fiber. Where do you get yopur supply of the carbon fiber tubes.
     
  8. jcoop

    jcoop Well-Known Member

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    Yea it floats and is kind of being stretched by the break/nut.
    I am the product designer for a company that deals in composits. So I build my own.
     
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  9. HRstretch

    HRstretch Well-Known Member

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    With all do respect that doesn't help the rest of us. What is the OD and ID of the tube, wall thickness? Is there a specific tension you achieve or is this a tuneable process?
     
  10. jcoop

    jcoop Well-Known Member

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    I have varied on tube ID and OD on 3 of the 4 I have built just messing around. One was a 1" id and a 1 1/4" od. the .223 I did was a .75" ID with a 1" OD. I messed with torque settings but I have found the tighter the better without striping the threads or crushing the tube.
    We use a similar method to stiffen steel tubes only doing it from the inside. It's amazing how much stiffer it makes them without adding much weight
     
  11. HRstretch

    HRstretch Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info. I guess I need to find the thickess tube I can and experiment as well. Tell your brother congratulations on the shot, hope it makes many a fine meal for him.
     
  12. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    That is definitely a cool concept. I think it is unique how you can take a small barrel and give it the stiffness of a BBL. That would allow a guy to take a 26" or longer tube and have it set to a sporter weight cut, and have the advantages of a heavy barrel. Sweet!!!!

    Tank
     
  13. efw

    efw Well-Known Member

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    That is awesome.

    Seriously; you should go into business for yourself building these things.

    Make mine your first order.

    I'm not kidding.

    I NEED a 338 RUM like you did your bro's.
     
  14. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    jcoop, great story and pics! Very cool how you guys put that rifle together and great idea on the tube, follow it up.. it shows a lot of promise :)

    .30ultramag, great shot and congrats on a nice buck!

    Cheers,

    Mark