May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please! What about the chamber??

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by shepardswatch, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. shepardswatch

    shepardswatch Member

    Messages:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Remington model 30-s douglas barrel in 22-250, need advise...
    I sent a remington action and barrel in to be powdercoated. Now it looks as if the powdercoating was done without plugging the barrel muzzle or chamber. I can look in the barrel and see the start of some of the lands but the grooves looks like a potting bed. Is my barrel ruined? Any advice or help would be much appreciated.

    Respectfully,
    Shepardswatch
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2011
  2. royinidaho

    royinidaho Writers Guild

    Messages:
    8,853
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2004
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    Who would have thought that the action (where the bolt rides) chamber and muzzle wouldn't have been protected/plugged.:rolleyes:

    Powder coating is not a precise process in my opinion. Great for auto parts etc and even rifle exterior metal part.

    I have ideas of what I would try after having a heart to heart with the powder coating service provider provided no recourse.:rolleyes:

    Maybe an old salt such as J E Custom will chime in.
     

  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    7,307
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2004
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!


    Try a heavy cleaning with a bore brush and bore solvent and then if it looks like most of it is
    gone shoot some starting loads through it. it won't stay there under that kind of pressure.

    PO Ackley did some test with larger bullets (I would not recommend this) and even fired an
    8mm bullet in a 30/06 with out any problem (The bullet was extruded longer)When recovered
    so after removing all you can just shoot it.

    It also might be a good place to use a FEW Tubs Fire lapping bullets.

    Just a few recomendations from an (OLD SALT) Ha. Ha.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  4. shepardswatch

    shepardswatch Member

    Messages:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    Thank you.... JE Custom, I'll give it a shot... so to speak.
    Have a great day.
     
  5. Oliveralan

    Oliveralan Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    991
    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    If this was done by a powdercoating service to one of my customs... I'd have a few things to say to them right now...
     
  6. Boss Hoss

    Boss Hoss Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,843
    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2005
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    JB or Iosso should take it out. Follow directions and if you know anyone with a bore scope borroe it. If you were in the DFW area I would do it for you.
     
  7. BigDaddy0381

    BigDaddy0381 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2007
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    You can get a cleaning rod,patches,hand lapping paste and a jig (cal spacific). and hand lap the Powder coating out of it. It will not hurt anything. It might take a little while and wear your arms out.
     
  8. shortgrass

    shortgrass Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,992
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    Is this powder coating business a 'dedicated firearms business', or do they coat anything and everything?
     
  9. Boss Hoss

    Boss Hoss Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,843
    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2005
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    NO WAY-----Lapping Compound removes metal and you have to know what you are doing!!!!!


    Be careful on what you put down the barrel---well meaning people will cause you to possibly damage your bore!
     
  10. BigDaddy0381

    BigDaddy0381 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2007
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    You are correct; it can hurt if you don't know what you’re doing. It also can make an average shooting weapon shoot much better. I have not seen anything on the market that will dissolve powder coating. I’m sure there is something that will but will it make the rifle start to pit prematurely?

    The option would be send it to someone who knows how to take care of your problem, and then give the bill to the powder coating company to pay.
     
  11. shepardswatch

    shepardswatch Member

    Messages:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    Let's just say that they handle thousands of weapons...
    I haven't adressed it with the shop lead or the armourer yet, that's
    coming. Thought if there was an easy way to deal with it, I'd just
    take care of it.

    Would also like to take time and thank all of you guy's for your wisdom, help, and advise.Never ran into anything like this, never thought I would...lol
    The gun was a great shooter just looked rough.
    Don't see many of the remington 30-S express around anymore.

    Thanks again...

    jim
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2011
  12. shepardswatch

    shepardswatch Member

    Messages:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!


    They are at the...
    2011 FFC (Atlantic) and All Navy (East) Matches: 9-22 April 2011 at Marine Corps Base Quantico, Weapons Training Battalion Headquarters.

    So at the moment i'll just try and deal with it, use a little patiences...
    My son did well... 1000 yards with the m1,yesterday.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    I would have to say that this was the very best part of the day!! .....:D.
    born after the match of course.....God is good all the time.
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2011
  13. shepardswatch

    shepardswatch Member

    Messages:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    Thought I would update the progress, after 2 days of soaking, after a few shots to loosen things up of course. I then used finger cots over the muzzle and filled the bore with BG industrial grade carbon-intake cleaner.
    Then alot of elbow grease with GM top engine cleaner and was very pleased with the results. Alot of the coating came out, along with what appeared to be some copper as well ?? Not so sure about that. There was dark blue mix in with the powder, as if I had used a copper remover, the powder resembled heavy fouling. Soaking now for another day or so, then we'll clean and take a look at the bore. Wanted to remove it as mildly as possible and this seems to be working great.
    Thank's again....GREAT ADVISE.
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2011
  14. shepardswatch

    shepardswatch Member

    Messages:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Re: May have damaged my barrel...Heip Please!!!

    Thought I would update the progress, after 2 days of soaking, after a few shots to loosen things up of course. I then used finger cots over the muzzle and filled the bore with BG industrial grade carbon-intake cleaner.
    Then alot of elbow grease with GM top engine cleaner and was very pleased with the results. Alot of the coating came out, along with what appeared to be some copper as well ?? Not so sure about that. There was dark blue mix in with the powder, as if I had used a copper remover, the powder resembled heavy fouling. Soaking now for another day or so, then we'll clean and take a look at the bore. Wanted to remove it as mildly as possible and this seems to be working great.
    Thank's again....GREAT ADVISE.
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2011