Long Range thick skin bullets

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by stenger, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. stenger

    stenger Well-Known Member

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    Had a moose hunt go bad when shot at less than 100 yards with a berger 250 at 2900 fps. A friend of mine just shot a moose three times and the bullets did not perform. They expanded to rapidly thus not making it to the goodies. Well since I load his ammo does anyone know of a good long range bullets that will perform up to buffalo size game. We are from the east not to educated on the really big game bullets.

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  2. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    Where are the pictures? How was the animal brought down? I will assume 338 something and what Berger bullet was it?
     

  3. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    Subscribing to follow the battle...:) Popcorn anyone?
     
  4. Kurt

    Kurt Well-Known Member

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    don't even shoot bergers but every bullet at one time for some one some where has failed. chalk it up to shit happens
     
  5. varmintH8R

    varmintH8R Well-Known Member

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    I'm in! Too funny.
     
  6. MMERSS

    MMERSS Well-Known Member

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    Thick skin=OTM?
     
  7. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    No Bergers here either, except the ones on the grill this evening.

    I load for 7 hunters and it's all Sierra or Barnes or they can load them themselves.

    I too am curious as to what caliber, and the circumstances.

    If you fill any animal with enough lead, something has to happen...or it gets lead poisoning.:)
     
  8. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    ....Maybe chased it down with the truck and ran it over...........:)
     
  9. stenger

    stenger Well-Known Member

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    I am just getting the reports back from Alaska now. They got the moose took three shots. 338 lapua mag at 2900 fps. I was advised that the bullets split in half and lost penetration. No war is intended just giving a report from the field. This guy wants to shoot a water buffalo with this rifle and is unhappy with the bullets results. I have no experience with game of this size. Looking for a bullet that can keep some long range ability but perform on big animals.
     
  10. elkaholic

    elkaholic Well-Known Member

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    Shooting a water buffalo with a Berger, or any thin skinned bullet like that sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. I've never hunted them but from everything I've heard, I would probably go with something like a Swift A-frame or the like.......Rich
     
  11. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    Did you load the OTM or the Hunter version? I shoot the 250's from my RUM at 3100 and I was planning on making sure I didn't punch the shoulder on elk until I got at least 800 yards on it, an Alaskan moose is quite a bit bigger.

    Bob Beck has smoked cape buffalo with the Berger 300 OTM from a 338-378!
     
  12. stenger

    stenger Well-Known Member

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    That's what I am thinking. Although a berger should perform on a moose
     
  13. D.Camilleri

    D.Camilleri Well-Known Member

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    I just harvested a big muley with 300 gr otms @2830, deer was only 80 yards and never moved at the shot. Bullet did not exit, entered behind the shoulder and there is a bullet diameter hole in the off shoulder, but I haven't cut the meat up yet to see if a fragment is in there. The damage in the chest cavity was devastating. It looked like a hand grenade went off. I had same results last year with a big bodied bull elk at 550 yards, drt. I don't know that it would be good for a bone breaking shoulder shot, but behind the shoulder it is devastating. I do seem to prefer the heavier for caliber bullets with berger though. Accubonds or Swift A frames would be my choice for a bullet to penetrate with a follow up by barnes tipped triple shock.
     
  14. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Sour cream and Chedder seasoning on mine please! :D