La Pua [From 30-06 to 25-06] Help!!!

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Eaglet, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. Eaglet

    Eaglet Well-Known Member

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    Ladies and Gents,
    What's the proccess to form La Pua 30-06 into 25-06? Do I just drop the 30-06 case in a 25-06 risizing die? is it worth it? This would be used on a factory Remington 25-06. Would I have to neck turn? Any comment would be appreciated. Thanks!!! Eaglet.
     
  2. CatShooter

    CatShooter Well-Known Member

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    You should neck it down in steps... go through a .270 FL die first.

    In a factory .25-06 chamber, you will NOT need to turn the necks.

    You will LOVE the Lapua cases.

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  3. .30-378

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    Why would you tell him to go throught .270 first? Not necessary at all. Been doing 30 to 25 for about 23 years with no troubles.
     
  4. CatShooter

    CatShooter Well-Known Member

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    Why would you tell him to go throught .270 first? Not necessary at all. Been doing 30 to 25 for about 23 years with no troubles.

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    When I started forming the cases, I had the .270 die and it just made things go smoother - I did not mean to imply that it is necessary... just smoother.

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  5. remingtonman_25_06

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    I dont know what gives here, but one time I got bored and tried putting a 30-06 case through my 25-06 FL die and I didn't get a very good looking case. It looked like the shoulder was all messed up, and I dont know if its suppose to look like that or what. Myabe I"ll do it again and take a picture this time. I'd like to use some lapua cases in my 25-06, so I think I"ll try it when I get home. Something just didn't seem right to me the way it looked. I wouldn't know if it would be ok to chamber in my rifle /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
  6. James Jones

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    Never made any for a 25-06 but I have made a pile for the 6mm-06 and I used a 270 neck die first. I sure that with the annealed cases that it probably woulden't be any trouble as long as you use a good lube
     
  7. Eaglet

    Eaglet Well-Known Member

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    Thank you all for your replies. I do appreciate them!
     
  8. .30-378

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    One last thing now that the dust has settled - when going from 30 to 25, tap your case mouths in a perpendicular fashion on your lube pad and use as little cam-over as possible on the die adjustment and you won't see the shoulder bulge being referred to. Once-fired cases should then go back to a solid cam-over. Seeya and good luck.
     
  9. stripes

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    I dont know what gives here, but one time I got bored and tried putting a 30-06 case through my 25-06 FL die and I didn't get a very good looking case. It looked like the shoulder was all messed up, and I dont know if its suppose to look like that or what. Myabe I"ll do it again and take a picture this time. I'd like to use some lapua cases in my 25-06, so I think I"ll try it when I get home. Something just didn't seem right to me the way it looked. I wouldn't know if it would be ok to chamber in my rifle /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

    [/ QUOTE ] Tried the same thing awhile ago 25-06 man my shoulder looked a little funny to, but i did not lube the inside of the case neck here as others said would stop that, my 25-06 should be back from hart soon wanted the quality of the lapua brass to get started with. wish they would make the brass (oem) but i dont think thats gonna happen
     
  10. Rooster 50

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    Haven't tried Lapua 30-06 to 25-06 but did try Norma for same thing. What a waste of time and good brass neck turned till I was blue in the face both inside and out. Did learn a lot though. Give it a try use the 270 mdie if you have one make it a lot easier.
     
  11. Eaglet

    Eaglet Well-Known Member

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    Rooster 50,

    Would you share a bit more your experience? Sounds interesting.
     
  12. rotorhead

    rotorhead Well-Known Member

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    I would use Norma brass in 270 and start there. Buy a 25-06 form and trim die from redding you'll have not problems. Use imperial wax for lube. Some folks on this site do not like Norma but I use it with almost everything and have had no problems and good life. I will agree I do think Lapua is better brass but very limited on choice. I do use it when I can. Their 223 and 338 lapua I will attest is absolutley great brass.
    Hope this helps
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  13. keithcandler

    keithcandler Well-Known Member

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    I neck size from 30/06 to 25/06 PMC in one pass......

    PMC brass is tough as nails. I never get a deformed shoulder, just perfect cases. I use Imperial wax on the case necks....not too much, just enough to feel slick to the touch. The Key is to put a heavy chamfer on the outside of the case to aid in the forming process.

    If you are scared of going straight to the 25/06 FL sizer, then use the 25/06 bullet seater because it is larger in dia.

    Good luck!
     
  14. Rooster 50

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    Haven't tried Lapua 30-06 to 25-06 but did try Norma for same thing. What a waste of time and good brass neck turned till I was blue in the face both inside and out. Did learn a lot though. Give it a try use the 270 mdie if you have one make it a lot easier.

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    I went back and dug out what I could of my notes from this experimint. It turns out I tried to use Norma 270 to make 25-06AI brass. It turns out that there were questions about trimming and when to do it. The case I believe is longer than the 25-06. I would have been better off to use 30-06 and neck it down. Bottom line is I didn't end up with brass that gave me better accuracy soafter a lot of side by side testing I scrapped the experimint. I did however get as many as 12 loadings with Winchester brass by doing minimal sizing, and not shooting the hottest loads I could find.