I use the sizing wax, but for cleaning I use a sonic cleaner. I haven't found anything to work as well ,the cases look like they are new,very shiny on the inside don't clean the primer pockets because it cleans them as well, sonic cleaning only takes about 45 minutes total including the rinse cycle. The drying part is what takes up most the time I guess I could flush with achohol to get most of the water out.