Best Long Range 30 Cal HUnting Bullet.

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  1. Remington5r

    Remington5r Active Member

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    For a 300 Winchester Magnum what would be the optimum bullet for extreme long range hunting purposes. I believe a 210 grn Long range accubond would be the one. I have also heard a 210 vld or a 215 hybrid is a very good bullet. Are there any other bullets on the market that would come close or exceed the performance of these bullets?
     
  2. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like you are on the right track. I personally like the Accubonds But the 210 Burgers also have a good reputation.

    J E CUSTOM
     

  3. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    Berger 210 VLD, 215 Hybrid, or 230 Hybrid should work good for you.
     
  4. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    A 300 Win Mag topped of with a 215 Berger is a very, very hard combo to beat, I'm not a 30 cal or belted mag fan but that combo is one that blows my skirt up!
     
  5. Greyfox

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    +1 for the 210/215gr Bergers. Just worked up loads trying the 210 Long Range Accubonds but haven't shot any game yet, or had a chance to establish the BC at long range which has been reported to be similar to the 210 Bergers. So far, load and velocity is identical, with POI and group size very close to the 210 Bergers out to 300 yards. I run them at 2900FPS out of my 24" Rem 5R Milsoec.
     
  6. Broz

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    We have extensively tested the 210, 215 and 230's and done some initial testing of the 210 LR Accubond in several 300 wins. The 215 Berger Hybrid remains to be the most impressive for the 300 win chamberings. With great velocity from its short bearing surface, easy and accurate load work up from the hybrid ogive and a perfect 21and O record of one shot kills on big game out to 1285 yards. The 215 is only out done on BC by the 230's but its accurately advertised .695 G1 BC with the gained velocity of the short bearing surface makes it "The go to" long range bullet for me in the 300 win. They are next to impossible to get right now but I hear there are some due out in the not to distant future. When they become available buy extra. If you for some reason don't like them the line to buy them from you will be a long one. If you get the performance we do from them you be glad to have a few extra on the shelf.

    Jeff
     
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  8. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    I shot Hornady for years...But their projectiles are just too fragile, IMO.
     
  9. Remington5r

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    What would be the weight retention on these bullets? What gives the bergers the advantage over the accubond long range? I Cannot find any ballistic gel tests with these bullets to see what their performance is. Do you have any?
     
  10. Broz

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    Due to my limited testing with it I will not offer any feed back for the 210 ALR. All I will say is I do not see me changing from the 215 Berger to the 210 ALR for a few reasons. At least not for my 300 win and my type of long range shooting.

    No ballistic jell tests, but here are 19 big game kills from antelope at 1285 yards to large bull elk at 600 and bull elk as close as 200. Plus a bunch of elk in the 500 to 800 range. All documented with terminal photos of wound channel damage and impact velocities. By reading this one long thread you should be able to have a very good idea of what to expect from this bullet at any range from a 300 win. And also know if the terminal results are what you prefer. Yes it is long, but if you are a long range shooter of a 300 win I think you will deem it worth while.

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/comparing-berger-210-vld-215-hybrid-88657/

    Best of luck to you.
    Jeff
     
  11. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    In My experience, the Bergers damage more meat than the Accubond. But they have a slight edge on BCs. There is no question that the Berger's perform well, but based on the consistency of the Accubonds on game I am willing to give up a little BC.

    Ether way, you cant go wrong with ether bullet.

    Just my opinion

    J E CUSTOM
     
  12. bigngreen

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    I'm just the opposite, one of the biggest reasons I tried the Berger was how much blood shot and meat loss I was getting with the Accubond. The Berger and similar design has been over all much better on meat loss which is something that weighs heavy on what bullet I use.
     
  13. Greyfox

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    This has been my experience as well. I am trying the LRAB's with the hope of getting more expansion over the Bergers on antelope and deer at long range. I had a few kills at long range that were fatal shots, but there was minimal expansion, and no visable indication by the animal when the bullet hit.
     
  14. kcebcj

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    How much meat is lost has never been an issue with me. I just want the animal to go down even with a poorly placed bullet. More importantly I want to see a reaction from the animal that it was indeed hit. I have had good success with the 200gr Accubond and the 190gr Berger in a 30-06. Two bucks one bull DRT all around 500 yards with the Berger's. Two bulls with the Accubond 4-500 yard with one going about 200 yards needing a second shot. I'm building a 300 WM and will set the barrel up for use with the 215gr Berger's. A lot of this decision comes the reporting "Broz" has done and my experience with the Berger's in the 06.

    As a side note. The first bull I ever killed was in eastern Idaho in 1976. He was way down the slope looking at me straight on. I just laid the cross hair at the top of his horns and squeezed it off. The shot blew him over backwards dead right there hitting him at the base of the neck just down on the brisket. The bullet was a 150gr Hornady Spire Point from my 30-06....go figure!