"Inherently more accurate"
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North Idaho Hunter
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Boy....good thing mudrunner isn't here for this one!!!
Okay, so which "two" rifles do you have? No trash talk here I'm just looking for someone to quantify the statement that seems to be used so easily.
No, I asked what made them more "inherently accurate"?
The CM based cartridges and 308 based cartridges were used as examples because they have similar case capacities in the same calibers.
adam32
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One thing about looking at records and what BR guys use is once one guy wins with one cartridge then every body else switches to that. So it isn't necessarily "the best", just the one that won...same with barrels and actions...a guy with wins with a Bartlien then the following comps you'll see more and more Bartliens, then someone will win with a Brux, well you get the picture...short and fat is always more accurate until a long skinny cartridge beats it.
Facts-you will not prove or disprove your argument with a guy who may go through two or three rifles in his life. You will not prove or disprove your argument with a guy who's brothers friends uncle knows a guy who knows a guy who's 30-06 is a one holer while your Win mag can barely shoot under .5 moa. The FACT that thousands upon thousands of barrels are burnt out squeezing everything accuracy wise possible out of equipment is what is required to statistically prove some cartridges are more accurate. When the wind is not blowing the 6br and improved cartridges rule. When the wind blows the higher bc 300 WSM rules. Statistics prove it.
When firing at game long range there are other things to consider such as energy. As hunters we have to decide what sacrifices we are going to make because there is no free lunch in physics. Having said that my SAUM and WSM were far easier to keep in tune than my 28 Nosler or 7-300 WM. I will be building a 300wsm after I burn out one of my 30s. As far as which you prefer for hunting that is very personal. I have my favorites but they may not be yours.
When firing at game long range there are other things to consider such as energy. As hunters we have to decide what sacrifices we are going to make because there is no free lunch in physics. Having said that my SAUM and WSM were far easier to keep in tune than my 28 Nosler or 7-300 WM. I will be building a 300wsm after I burn out one of my 30s. As far as which you prefer for hunting that is very personal. I have my favorites but they may not be yours.
That may be the "rule" but there are always guys trying to win with the newest greatest thing or we would have never had a 6br in competition. We would have never had the 300WSM winning because the 300 WM used to win in the wind. I guarantee people in benchrest fclass are trying new things. I have even seen some trying Rich's cartridges.
We answered that. Case capacity, fill ratio, and burn rate. After than in the distance are the things Rich mentioned. Steeper shoulder angles and less body taper. On average the shorter fatter case with a steeper shoulder angle will be more efficient which leads to accuracy. When it is calm the most important part of accuracy is vertical. When the wind blows horizontal obviously has to be paid more attention to. In both cases vertical matters and large overbore cartridges just will not maintain the tight vertical of the br or WSM cases. There are numerous cartridges that will hold better wind but you need both components to be accurate.
adam32
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The PPC will spank a BR and a WSM...and the 338/378 is still the 1000 yard king...
I know, and the 6.5 creedmoor kills T rexs from mars.
