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WTH is with these scope prices??
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<blockquote data-quote="LtBlue425" data-source="post: 659492" data-attributes="member: 29349"><p>The old adage "you get what you pay for" has been around for a long time and was generally accurate, especially for optics. For many years I bought "value priced" scopes and binocs. Most of them served my purposes adequately. Then I started getting introduced to higher end stuff. My El Paso Weaver scopes were fine for p-dogging then a friend let me use his Leupold scope. The difference in clarity was enough to convert me to be a Leupold fan (still am). KMart binocs were okay until I got a Steiner 8x30 Military-Marine. The crispness of the view was astonishing to me, I could see .22 holes at 100 yards. A Barska and Yukon spotting scope were sort of okay until I got a Nikon. Now I'd like to get a spotter with even better clarity. </p><p> </p><p>Working in a large busy gunshop gives one the opportunity to compare a wide spectrum of optics (mostly riflescopes) and price range. We had bought a huge pile of NightForce a few years ago when they were the rage. Apparently they are not the rage anymore because the shop still has a big pile of NF. That's a lot of money tied up in inventory that's gathering dust. So the NF is an outstanding scope so why aren't people buying it? Easy answer...high priced, bulky, bells & whistles most don't use and heavy. There is still some (very little) interest in NF but its mostly for static position shooters, long range & benchrest. </p><p> </p><p>The best seller last fall was the Leupold VX-1 for 199.99. They gave the buyer a brand name, good clarity, good quality for an affordable price. Nikon was also a good seller in their lower priced scopes. </p><p> </p><p>Buyers and the economy leave me wondering at times. I was always astonished at the numbers of guys who'd rush into the shop to plunk down $1200 - $1500 for the latest neato Benelli or Beretta auto shotgun!! IMHO they're grossly overpriced and grossly overhyped and I'm being nice. On the fip side high priced rifles did not move but low priced ones did. The gunmakers seem to have a good finger on this phenomenum as evidenced by value priced rifles from Savage, Marlin, Mossberg and now Ruger American (selling like hotcakes, IF you can get one in). </p><p> </p><p>So from watching buyers I know there's disposable income still in the economy and it appears to me some aren't afraid to spend it IF its something they really want. Demographics probably are at play too. Most rifle sales locally are to folks that are going to use them and scar them up. Why scuff up a high priced fancy walnut rifle when a $340 Ruger American will give you the same results...dead deer. </p><p> </p><p>There are very good values in optics and a higher price doesn't automatically make a value. If a buyer does their homework you can get a good scope that will give a lifetime of satisfactory use. Oh and yes, optics are usually marked up to jaw dropping percentages.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LtBlue425, post: 659492, member: 29349"] The old adage "you get what you pay for" has been around for a long time and was generally accurate, especially for optics. For many years I bought "value priced" scopes and binocs. Most of them served my purposes adequately. Then I started getting introduced to higher end stuff. My El Paso Weaver scopes were fine for p-dogging then a friend let me use his Leupold scope. The difference in clarity was enough to convert me to be a Leupold fan (still am). KMart binocs were okay until I got a Steiner 8x30 Military-Marine. The crispness of the view was astonishing to me, I could see .22 holes at 100 yards. A Barska and Yukon spotting scope were sort of okay until I got a Nikon. Now I'd like to get a spotter with even better clarity. Working in a large busy gunshop gives one the opportunity to compare a wide spectrum of optics (mostly riflescopes) and price range. We had bought a huge pile of NightForce a few years ago when they were the rage. Apparently they are not the rage anymore because the shop still has a big pile of NF. That's a lot of money tied up in inventory that's gathering dust. So the NF is an outstanding scope so why aren't people buying it? Easy answer...high priced, bulky, bells & whistles most don't use and heavy. There is still some (very little) interest in NF but its mostly for static position shooters, long range & benchrest. The best seller last fall was the Leupold VX-1 for 199.99. They gave the buyer a brand name, good clarity, good quality for an affordable price. Nikon was also a good seller in their lower priced scopes. Buyers and the economy leave me wondering at times. I was always astonished at the numbers of guys who'd rush into the shop to plunk down $1200 - $1500 for the latest neato Benelli or Beretta auto shotgun!! IMHO they're grossly overpriced and grossly overhyped and I'm being nice. On the fip side high priced rifles did not move but low priced ones did. The gunmakers seem to have a good finger on this phenomenum as evidenced by value priced rifles from Savage, Marlin, Mossberg and now Ruger American (selling like hotcakes, IF you can get one in). So from watching buyers I know there's disposable income still in the economy and it appears to me some aren't afraid to spend it IF its something they really want. Demographics probably are at play too. Most rifle sales locally are to folks that are going to use them and scar them up. Why scuff up a high priced fancy walnut rifle when a $340 Ruger American will give you the same results...dead deer. There are very good values in optics and a higher price doesn't automatically make a value. If a buyer does their homework you can get a good scope that will give a lifetime of satisfactory use. Oh and yes, optics are usually marked up to jaw dropping percentages. [/QUOTE]
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