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<blockquote data-quote="Swamphunter" data-source="post: 592666" data-attributes="member: 39441"><p>Here's some numbers for you Cowboy.</p><p> from 2012 Deer Hunters Almanac</p><p> Archery and firearms harvest </p><p> </p><p>Wisconsin deer harvest Minnesota</p><p> </p><p>1996 460524 1996 157317</p><p>1997 359305 1997 143327</p><p>1998 407615 1998 158854</p><p>1999 494116 1999 179487</p><p>2000 618274 2000 209500</p><p>2001 446957 2001 217452</p><p>2002 372076 2002 222050</p><p>2003 483951 2003 290000</p><p>2004 517169 2004 260604</p><p>2005 463935 2005 255600</p><p>2006 506947 2006 270850</p><p>2007 520416 2007 260434</p><p>2008 451885 2008 221800</p><p>2009 329103 2009 194178</p><p>2010 336871 2010 207313</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Michigan deer harvest </p><p> </p><p>1996 419289</p><p>1997 382000</p><p>1998 450000</p><p>1999 544895</p><p>2000 541701</p><p>2001 463706</p><p>2002 476215</p><p>2003 495000</p><p>2004 433000</p><p>2005 398000</p><p>2006 456000</p><p>2007 480638</p><p>2008 489922</p><p>2009 444047</p><p>2010 412299</p><p> </p><p>So there are the numbers you kept telling me I wasn't providing. </p><p>There are also numbers for Montana Wyoming and Idaho but I did not include them since I don't know how much deer habitat is included in the wolf territories.</p><p> </p><p> In 1999 the Minnesota Dept of Natural Resources began holding public information meetings to begin the process of delisting the wolf. I attended two of those meetings and it was well represented by hunters as well as animal rights people. The hunters were adamant that the wolf was wiping out the deer herd. And a lot of the wolf lovers called us killers, butchers etc etc, (if you have ever visited an animal rights site you will see they like to do the name calling thing) Dr Mech attended one of the meetings and stated that basically north of US highway 2 from Duluth and west to North Dakota (a rough line of the wolf habitat) that this area was saturated with wolves and that their territories were overlapping and they would kill each other in these areas. Some would spread south, and they have. In spite of this the deer harvest increased each year after the brutal winters of 95-96 and 96-97.</p><p>Then in 2003 people started complaining that there were to many deer.We'd had some of the mildest winters in the states history.We were able to start shooting multiple deer and in a large part of the state for the next few years were able to shoot 1 buck and up to five does. Now the population has come down some and those areas are fewer. Last year was a harsher winter than the previous years and there were more deer losses from weather and subsequently more than likely more wolf losses as well. </p><p>In my previous post I said that recovery in Minn was 1300 but have read it is 1600</p><p><a href="http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/natural_resources/animals/mammals/wolves/delguidice_wolf_article.pdf" target="_blank">http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/natural_resources/animals/mammals/wolves/delguidice_wolf_article.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/rsg/profile.html?action=elementDetail&selectedElement=AMAJA01030" target="_blank">Species profile: Minnesota DNR</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/roundtable/2010/wildlife/wolf_deer_impacts.pdf" target="_blank">http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/roundtable/2010/wildlife/wolf_deer_impacts.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Swamphunter, post: 592666, member: 39441"] Here's some numbers for you Cowboy. from 2012 Deer Hunters Almanac Archery and firearms harvest Wisconsin deer harvest Minnesota 1996 460524 1996 157317 1997 359305 1997 143327 1998 407615 1998 158854 1999 494116 1999 179487 2000 618274 2000 209500 2001 446957 2001 217452 2002 372076 2002 222050 2003 483951 2003 290000 2004 517169 2004 260604 2005 463935 2005 255600 2006 506947 2006 270850 2007 520416 2007 260434 2008 451885 2008 221800 2009 329103 2009 194178 2010 336871 2010 207313 Michigan deer harvest 1996 419289 1997 382000 1998 450000 1999 544895 2000 541701 2001 463706 2002 476215 2003 495000 2004 433000 2005 398000 2006 456000 2007 480638 2008 489922 2009 444047 2010 412299 So there are the numbers you kept telling me I wasn't providing. There are also numbers for Montana Wyoming and Idaho but I did not include them since I don't know how much deer habitat is included in the wolf territories. In 1999 the Minnesota Dept of Natural Resources began holding public information meetings to begin the process of delisting the wolf. I attended two of those meetings and it was well represented by hunters as well as animal rights people. The hunters were adamant that the wolf was wiping out the deer herd. And a lot of the wolf lovers called us killers, butchers etc etc, (if you have ever visited an animal rights site you will see they like to do the name calling thing) Dr Mech attended one of the meetings and stated that basically north of US highway 2 from Duluth and west to North Dakota (a rough line of the wolf habitat) that this area was saturated with wolves and that their territories were overlapping and they would kill each other in these areas. Some would spread south, and they have. In spite of this the deer harvest increased each year after the brutal winters of 95-96 and 96-97. Then in 2003 people started complaining that there were to many deer.We'd had some of the mildest winters in the states history.We were able to start shooting multiple deer and in a large part of the state for the next few years were able to shoot 1 buck and up to five does. Now the population has come down some and those areas are fewer. Last year was a harsher winter than the previous years and there were more deer losses from weather and subsequently more than likely more wolf losses as well. In my previous post I said that recovery in Minn was 1300 but have read it is 1600 [URL]http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/natural_resources/animals/mammals/wolves/delguidice_wolf_article.pdf[/URL] [url=http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/rsg/profile.html?action=elementDetail&selectedElement=AMAJA01030]Species profile: Minnesota DNR[/url] [URL]http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/roundtable/2010/wildlife/wolf_deer_impacts.pdf[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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