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<blockquote data-quote="rick97" data-source="post: 632588" data-attributes="member: 44916"><p>Hunting/trapping is not going to even come close to removing the # of wolves that need to be removed for our elk and deer herds to be helped. It just isn't going to happen and I believe Idaho fish and game knows this and this is why they are selling more tags. Only a handful of hunters bagged 2 wolves each and there were well over 30,000 hunters that bought wolf tags. What does that tell you? The only real method of getting the wolf population to where we want it and that is to help the deer and elk herds is with poison. Aerial gunning costs too much money, so it's very likely this will only be used in certain situations. Even if there was a shoot on sight season year round, it still wouldn't remove the amount of wolves that have to be removed. Talk to Idaho hunter and they will tell you the same. The 360 plus wolves removed won't even put a dent in the wolf population in Idaho. Even Idaho fish and game biologists admitted there were 2000 plus wolves in Idaho.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hunting Seasons a "Feel Good Band Aid" not a Solution</p><p></p><p>Dr. Charles Kay states we need to remove 70% of the wolves each year to help declining elk herds. Fair chase hunting of wolves could not possibly remove 70% of the wolf population. So even under Idaho's no quota season wolf hunting is not an answer to reverse declining elk herds. Montana's wolf season has a quota of 220 wolves. Several biologists have stated there are 4000-5000 wolves in the three states of Wyoming, Idaho and Montana. That is a significantly higher number than the frequently reported 1650 wolves. Dr. L. David Mech told me that was one of his real pet peeves. He says the 1650 number is a bare minimum. He is one of the biologists that estimates the number closer to 4000 than 1650. If Montana has a third of the wolves and the number is 4000 then Montana's quota of 220 wolves is only 17% of the wolves, far less than the 70% Dr. Kay says we need to remove to have any positive affect on elk populations.</p><p></p><p>Idaho fish and game are letting hunters kill 5 wolves as a way to make money off of them. They know it's very unlikely than any hunter will come close to bagging 5 wolves. it's funny when you see sme hunters acting like these hunting/trapping seasons are going to help our deer and elk herds. If you understand nature, you'd know that wolves compete with each other for elk/deer. The less wolves there are, the more deer and elk there will be to kill and eat by the remaining wolves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rick97, post: 632588, member: 44916"] Hunting/trapping is not going to even come close to removing the # of wolves that need to be removed for our elk and deer herds to be helped. It just isn't going to happen and I believe Idaho fish and game knows this and this is why they are selling more tags. Only a handful of hunters bagged 2 wolves each and there were well over 30,000 hunters that bought wolf tags. What does that tell you? The only real method of getting the wolf population to where we want it and that is to help the deer and elk herds is with poison. Aerial gunning costs too much money, so it's very likely this will only be used in certain situations. Even if there was a shoot on sight season year round, it still wouldn't remove the amount of wolves that have to be removed. Talk to Idaho hunter and they will tell you the same. The 360 plus wolves removed won't even put a dent in the wolf population in Idaho. Even Idaho fish and game biologists admitted there were 2000 plus wolves in Idaho. Hunting Seasons a “Feel Good Band Aid” not a Solution Dr. Charles Kay states we need to remove 70% of the wolves each year to help declining elk herds. Fair chase hunting of wolves could not possibly remove 70% of the wolf population. So even under Idaho’s no quota season wolf hunting is not an answer to reverse declining elk herds. Montana’s wolf season has a quota of 220 wolves. Several biologists have stated there are 4000-5000 wolves in the three states of Wyoming, Idaho and Montana. That is a significantly higher number than the frequently reported 1650 wolves. Dr. L. David Mech told me that was one of his real pet peeves. He says the 1650 number is a bare minimum. He is one of the biologists that estimates the number closer to 4000 than 1650. If Montana has a third of the wolves and the number is 4000 then Montana’s quota of 220 wolves is only 17% of the wolves, far less than the 70% Dr. Kay says we need to remove to have any positive affect on elk populations. Idaho fish and game are letting hunters kill 5 wolves as a way to make money off of them. They know it's very unlikely than any hunter will come close to bagging 5 wolves. it's funny when you see sme hunters acting like these hunting/trapping seasons are going to help our deer and elk herds. If you understand nature, you'd know that wolves compete with each other for elk/deer. The less wolves there are, the more deer and elk there will be to kill and eat by the remaining wolves. [/QUOTE]
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