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<blockquote data-quote="Greyfox" data-source="post: 1936227" data-attributes="member: 10291"><p>To answer your question. Yes the post 64 and 70's era Model 70's were quite rough particularly when compared to the pre 64 and mid 80's and later samples. By the early 60's, Winchester(controlled by the bean counters) made the decision to cost reduce the Model 70. While some would claim the pre-64's had declined in workmanship by the late 50's, it was still far ahead in workmanship, features, and quality when compared to the lower cost/price competitors. It took Winchester about 10 years and a new management team to realize that the first iteration of the post 64 Winchester was a only a shadow of the prior iteration, and cost them their market leadership position that was held for about 20+ years prior. Having said that, I owned a 70's era Model 70. While it was rough and lacked the fit, finish, and quality of the pre-64, it was as accurate, and not much different in fit and finish to the Remington and Savages of the day(pressed checkering, push feed, stamped trim parts, etc.). Winchester was unable to shake off the stigma associated with the downgrade frim the prior iteration, even though it was little different from it's primary competition. </p><p>The pre-64, being mostly hand fitted, was simply that much nicer. I soon replaced my post 64 iwith a pre-64 which I still own and use today. By the early 90's the Model 70 had been upgraded with many of the attributes of the pre-64, but by that time it was too late for Winchester regain its former market position. They went through a series of restructurings, and ultimately acquired. The recessionary 70's in America was a dark period for many American made products. IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greyfox, post: 1936227, member: 10291"] To answer your question. Yes the post 64 and 70’s era Model 70’s were quite rough particularly when compared to the pre 64 and mid 80’s and later samples. By the early 60’s, Winchester(controlled by the bean counters) made the decision to cost reduce the Model 70. While some would claim the pre-64’s had declined in workmanship by the late 50’s, it was still far ahead in workmanship, features, and quality when compared to the lower cost/price competitors. It took Winchester about 10 years and a new management team to realize that the first iteration of the post 64 Winchester was a only a shadow of the prior iteration, and cost them their market leadership position that was held for about 20+ years prior. Having said that, I owned a 70’s era Model 70. While it was rough and lacked the fit, finish, and quality of the pre-64, it was as accurate, and not much different in fit and finish to the Remington and Savages of the day(pressed checkering, push feed, stamped trim parts, etc.). Winchester was unable to shake off the stigma associated with the downgrade frim the prior iteration, even though it was little different from it’s primary competition. The pre-64, being mostly hand fitted, was simply that much nicer. I soon replaced my post 64 iwith a pre-64 which I still own and use today. By the early 90’s the Model 70 had been upgraded with many of the attributes of the pre-64, but by that time it was too late for Winchester regain its former market position. They went through a series of restructurings, and ultimately acquired. The recessionary 70’s in America was a dark period for many American made products. IMO. [/QUOTE]
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