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<blockquote data-quote="sscoyote" data-source="post: 541373" data-attributes="member: 1133"><p>Lou, when i'm out coyote hunting every year i get a lot of opportunity to reticle range antelope (mostly), and according to my notes i have 8 entries from 300 to about 700 yds, and by using 14" for does and 15" for bucks i have 1-2% error from lasered readings using everything from simple plex to Ballistic Plex. 2 seasons ago i finally had the opportunity to reticle range 2 coyotes and by guessing their back to brisket measurements ~11" (can't remember now) i ranged them both close enough to have killed them out at ~500-some yds. (also can't remember exact details now). John Barsness has also used the system with way better success than simply guessing before the lasers hit the market (on antelope mostly). I actually reticle-ranged a doe antelope on the move trotting through a prairie dog town we were shooting in and got very close to lasered range (~350) using another mil reticle.</p><p></p><p>I elevated my score in a tactical match couple years ago by reverse milling one target, calculating it's size, then milling another target of the same dimension, and it worked well enough to hit the ~350ish yd. target (steel prairie dogs actually) using a 4 MOA reticle subtension--the important point here being knowing the simple math behind the system is better than not knowing it, and no one's laser was working on that particular tgt.</p><p></p><p>Here's another example of why it's important to have some system established. Buddy was hunting antelope several years ago when he came upon an alerted buck. The buck ran from him some distance away and got down into a hollow. My buddy takes off after him and while crawling up to the buck it jumped out of it's bed spooked by my partner. My buddy's prone from crawling of course and pulls out his laser to try and range the buck standing broadside. But he can't get the laser steady enough to get a range. He keeps raising higher and higher to try and get the laser to work. Finally he got a lasered range of 200-something. Now had he had a point blank range rangefinding system established with his plex reticle he could have applied an adequately accurate system quickly without having to get out of position. He said he thought the buck was over 300 yds. away--easy to misake from prone. He actually got that buck somehow even with all the lasering antics he was doing right in front of him.</p><p></p><p>For me knowing and applying the systems when needed has been a help way more than a hindrance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sscoyote, post: 541373, member: 1133"] Lou, when i'm out coyote hunting every year i get a lot of opportunity to reticle range antelope (mostly), and according to my notes i have 8 entries from 300 to about 700 yds, and by using 14" for does and 15" for bucks i have 1-2% error from lasered readings using everything from simple plex to Ballistic Plex. 2 seasons ago i finally had the opportunity to reticle range 2 coyotes and by guessing their back to brisket measurements ~11" (can't remember now) i ranged them both close enough to have killed them out at ~500-some yds. (also can't remember exact details now). John Barsness has also used the system with way better success than simply guessing before the lasers hit the market (on antelope mostly). I actually reticle-ranged a doe antelope on the move trotting through a prairie dog town we were shooting in and got very close to lasered range (~350) using another mil reticle. I elevated my score in a tactical match couple years ago by reverse milling one target, calculating it's size, then milling another target of the same dimension, and it worked well enough to hit the ~350ish yd. target (steel prairie dogs actually) using a 4 MOA reticle subtension--the important point here being knowing the simple math behind the system is better than not knowing it, and no one's laser was working on that particular tgt. Here's another example of why it's important to have some system established. Buddy was hunting antelope several years ago when he came upon an alerted buck. The buck ran from him some distance away and got down into a hollow. My buddy takes off after him and while crawling up to the buck it jumped out of it's bed spooked by my partner. My buddy's prone from crawling of course and pulls out his laser to try and range the buck standing broadside. But he can't get the laser steady enough to get a range. He keeps raising higher and higher to try and get the laser to work. Finally he got a lasered range of 200-something. Now had he had a point blank range rangefinding system established with his plex reticle he could have applied an adequately accurate system quickly without having to get out of position. He said he thought the buck was over 300 yds. away--easy to misake from prone. He actually got that buck somehow even with all the lasering antics he was doing right in front of him. For me knowing and applying the systems when needed has been a help way more than a hindrance. [/QUOTE]
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