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<blockquote data-quote="fordy" data-source="post: 2723581" data-attributes="member: 120504"><p>Gday</p><p>I like this & use to do a similar thing & have for around 30 odd years on so many brands & critters</p><p>Tried a little on hammertime but logistically it's hard so tip my hat to you Ed this is good</p><p>Moving forward</p><p></p><p>Really I'm probably not a good person to add to these data sheets</p><p></p><p>This is due to I just like testing these days & really don't hunt much or place shots where I really want as if I do that you just don't get as good of data imo</p><p></p><p>When I first joined hammertime my bangflop ratio was extremely high for a bit then I got corrupted into placing shots that I don't like & try to avoid & this disease I have of searching for the holy grail of pills was better suited to me doing this imo so I was in yep totally corrupted</p><p></p><p>today overall I wait for bad angles or hyped up critters to get my data on the majority I take now as I just can't shoot enough compared to years gone by to get the bad shots that normally occur that produce less than ideal results eg for me out of a 100 critters I'd get 1or 2 real bad & total about 10% off the mark from where I'd like to place the shot with this increasing past 750 ish</p><p>Today I'm hard to get to let alone past 500 as I just don't like trying to read the wind anymore along with my trigger skills have dropped off & really I'm a 2 zone pbr ( range & wind ) or it walks as another won't be far away I hope</p><p></p><p>Maybe this might help explain why my data might not help</p><p></p><p>I had great discussions with harperc & we were on the opposite ends of the great sectional density debate</p><p>So off my previous experience on cape buff & 200 gr pill & Carl coming from the heavy 350 gr we were going tit for tat so only way to settle was take a asiatic buff or 2</p><p>Well didn't I learn how hammers preform on asiatic & ate my words</p><p>200 gr SH out off h&h My son dropped 1st cow bangflop high shoulder on run in a billabong so she wasn't going real quick but cool next a cow flat chat & she dropped in a cloud of dust high shoulder again ( cns both ) & I've got those particular horns from that trip in my avatar yes proud dad</p><p></p><p>Mmm going well I thought & out of a mob a Mickey bull gave me a opportunity with my rum & I hit him behind the shoulder & didn't even flinch but didn't get another shot off</p><p>So a MILE latter !!!! we found him standing in a another billabong another shoulder shot 1/2 way up leg & it just didn't worry him & went deeper into water so 3rd shot he finally went down ( cns )</p><p>I'll leave the boring details of why this occurred but neither Carl or I were right but what was found out has set us up understanding why we were wrong</p><p></p><p>Now moved that 200 gr SH over to donkeys & man first up 7 from 7 all bangflop & the angles all the way around the clock</p><p></p><p>That's the worst run I've had with hammers & totally accept I was wrong but also a few runs with prototypes that will never make the market as already better pills out there ( not current prototype that's real good ) but also some extremely good results just don't know if it's data worth tainting the above chart from Ed <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤷♂️" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" /></p><p>Myself no I don't like as a mile run & that's it I'd swear off that pill on the surface but I know that no pill brand has put asiatic on the ground quicker when you get it right</p><p></p><p>I'll grab some old charts & give a idea of what I used to gather to form the opinions I have on how a pill actually preforms</p><p>I use to break down to 200 fps brackets & a minimum of 10 critters per bracket</p><p>This I can't do anymore as I just don't shoot enough critters today but if you guys put good data in you will get some impressive data out</p><p>Then you will find the pills that not only kill you'll find the ones that really hammer them</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fordy, post: 2723581, member: 120504"] Gday I like this & use to do a similar thing & have for around 30 odd years on so many brands & critters Tried a little on hammertime but logistically it’s hard so tip my hat to you Ed this is good Moving forward Really I’m probably not a good person to add to these data sheets This is due to I just like testing these days & really don’t hunt much or place shots where I really want as if I do that you just don’t get as good of data imo When I first joined hammertime my bangflop ratio was extremely high for a bit then I got corrupted into placing shots that I don’t like & try to avoid & this disease I have of searching for the holy grail of pills was better suited to me doing this imo so I was in yep totally corrupted today overall I wait for bad angles or hyped up critters to get my data on the majority I take now as I just can’t shoot enough compared to years gone by to get the bad shots that normally occur that produce less than ideal results eg for me out of a 100 critters I’d get 1or 2 real bad & total about 10% off the mark from where I’d like to place the shot with this increasing past 750 ish Today I’m hard to get to let alone past 500 as I just don’t like trying to read the wind anymore along with my trigger skills have dropped off & really I’m a 2 zone pbr ( range & wind ) or it walks as another won’t be far away I hope Maybe this might help explain why my data might not help I had great discussions with harperc & we were on the opposite ends of the great sectional density debate So off my previous experience on cape buff & 200 gr pill & Carl coming from the heavy 350 gr we were going tit for tat so only way to settle was take a asiatic buff or 2 Well didn’t I learn how hammers preform on asiatic & ate my words 200 gr SH out off h&h My son dropped 1st cow bangflop high shoulder on run in a billabong so she wasn’t going real quick but cool next a cow flat chat & she dropped in a cloud of dust high shoulder again ( cns both ) & I’ve got those particular horns from that trip in my avatar yes proud dad Mmm going well I thought & out of a mob a Mickey bull gave me a opportunity with my rum & I hit him behind the shoulder & didn’t even flinch but didn’t get another shot off So a MILE latter !!!! we found him standing in a another billabong another shoulder shot 1/2 way up leg & it just didn’t worry him & went deeper into water so 3rd shot he finally went down ( cns ) I’ll leave the boring details of why this occurred but neither Carl or I were right but what was found out has set us up understanding why we were wrong Now moved that 200 gr SH over to donkeys & man first up 7 from 7 all bangflop & the angles all the way around the clock That’s the worst run I’ve had with hammers & totally accept I was wrong but also a few runs with prototypes that will never make the market as already better pills out there ( not current prototype that’s real good ) but also some extremely good results just don’t know if it’s data worth tainting the above chart from Ed 🤷♂️ Myself no I don’t like as a mile run & that’s it I’d swear off that pill on the surface but I know that no pill brand has put asiatic on the ground quicker when you get it right I’ll grab some old charts & give a idea of what I used to gather to form the opinions I have on how a pill actually preforms I use to break down to 200 fps brackets & a minimum of 10 critters per bracket This I can’t do anymore as I just don’t shoot enough critters today but if you guys put good data in you will get some impressive data out Then you will find the pills that not only kill you’ll find the ones that really hammer them Cheers [/QUOTE]
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