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Why do so many people not like the 338 Lapua?
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<blockquote data-quote="Coyote_Hunter" data-source="post: 1742542" data-attributes="member: 110773"><p>There is a LOT of difference between a 6.5CM and .338 Lapua.</p><p></p><p>Just what is your intended purpose – killing paper and steel at long range or hunting?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Considering I own bolt and AR-15 and A-10 rifles semi-auto handguns and they are variously chambered for a variety of cartridges adopted or at least used by military organizations (9mm Para, ,40 S&W, .45ACP, .223/5.56, .308 Win, .30-06, .300WM and .45-70), I don't give a crap if a cartridge is designed for or by or used by the military – any military. If it suits my purposes, I use it. So I guess we agree on that point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"Overkill" to me is when a cartridge does way more damage and/or generates far more recoil than necessary, often/usually at greater expense. In an extreme case for purposes of illustration, one of my .45-70 "Rhino Blaster" loads (460g hardcast, 1812fps, 50+ ft-lbs recoil) to kill a squirrel when a .22 Short would do just fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't shoot Weatherby cartridges for a reason. Factory ammo is expensive but I reload so that isn't much of an issue. Brass tends to be more expensive as well, but I get the job done with more pedestrian cartridges at lower cost. My most expensive scopes are used Leupolds that I paid $350 for. One of them sits on top of my 6.5-06AI and works well enough that I've had hit rates as high as 80% shooting lay pigeons on the 600-yrd berm. If I ever spend $2K for a scope, my wife should have me committed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The older I get the more I appreciate lower recoil. There are multiple reasons I don't shoot 3-1'2" max dram equivalent turkey loads when hunting doves and recoil is one of them. My .45-70 "Rhino Blaster" loads mentioned above are shoulder busting, retina detaching bitches in a light rifle.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The older I get the more I appreciate light rifles, too. Figured that out years ago humping the hills for elk.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It isn't that I don't "like" the .338 Lapua, I have no feelings for it at all. It just doesn't do what I want or anything I need done that I can't do with something else with less recoil and at less expense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd go with the 6.5CM all day long. Currently in the process of building another rifle on a Savage action. It will probably end up a 6.5 PRC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coyote_Hunter, post: 1742542, member: 110773"] There is a LOT of difference between a 6.5CM and .338 Lapua. Just what is your intended purpose – killing paper and steel at long range or hunting? Considering I own bolt and AR-15 and A-10 rifles semi-auto handguns and they are variously chambered for a variety of cartridges adopted or at least used by military organizations (9mm Para, ,40 S&W, .45ACP, .223/5.56, .308 Win, .30-06, .300WM and .45-70), I don’t give a crap if a cartridge is designed for or by or used by the military – any military. If it suits my purposes, I use it. So I guess we agree on that point. “Overkill” to me is when a cartridge does way more damage and/or generates far more recoil than necessary, often/usually at greater expense. In an extreme case for purposes of illustration, one of my .45-70 “Rhino Blaster” loads (460g hardcast, 1812fps, 50+ ft-lbs recoil) to kill a squirrel when a .22 Short would do just fine. I don’t shoot Weatherby cartridges for a reason. Factory ammo is expensive but I reload so that isn’t much of an issue. Brass tends to be more expensive as well, but I get the job done with more pedestrian cartridges at lower cost. My most expensive scopes are used Leupolds that I paid $350 for. One of them sits on top of my 6.5-06AI and works well enough that I’ve had hit rates as high as 80% shooting lay pigeons on the 600-yrd berm. If I ever spend $2K for a scope, my wife should have me committed. The older I get the more I appreciate lower recoil. There are multiple reasons I don’t shoot 3-1’2” max dram equivalent turkey loads when hunting doves and recoil is one of them. My .45-70 “Rhino Blaster” loads mentioned above are shoulder busting, retina detaching bitches in a light rifle. The older I get the more I appreciate light rifles, too. Figured that out years ago humping the hills for elk. It isn’t that I don’t “like” the .338 Lapua, I have no feelings for it at all. It just doesn’t do what I want or anything I need done that I can’t do with something else with less recoil and at less expense. I’d go with the 6.5CM all day long. Currently in the process of building another rifle on a Savage action. It will probably end up a 6.5 PRC. [/QUOTE]
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