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Who is using the Barnes Triple Shocks? / Like them?
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<blockquote data-quote="goodgrouper" data-source="post: 61437" data-attributes="member: 2852"><p>Dakor,</p><p>I believe you. That is what I have been saying all along, Barnes are not the best long range bullet.</p><p></p><p>One thing I would like to mention also is that Barnes bullets are made from copper wire that is brought in from a copper wire producer out of house. It is very common over there in American fork, Utah that some of the lots of copper don't react or swage like others. Barnes takes a bullet off the producion line at random, and tests it for all kinds of different things. If they get a lot of copper that doesn't perform up to specs, they "in theory" go back and scrap all that copper, and send it back to their copper supplier. Then they start over with a different lot. I say this is "in theory" because I have a friend who did his MBA thesis study on Barnes production management about 12 months ago, and he was in house for 5 weeks, and never saw them scrap any bullets and send them back to be melted down. Very interesting isn't it? </p><p>I bring this up because it is entirely possible that the Barnes bullets I bought were from the lot that was "supposed" to be scrapped, and the ones you fellas bought were the good ones! It is possible is it not??</p><p></p><p>Oh, and by the way, you did not have to teach me about shrapnell inside animals causing damage. I have been shooting Ballistic tips for years on elk and deer just for that very idea. Massive damage internally is very effective, and Ballistic tips do way more damage internally then Barnes in my experience.</p><p></p><p>Also, if you caught the implied meaning of my lot to lot theory of inconsistent copper, than you would have to agree that a bullet that is not consistant from lot to lot can't be good for long range as consistency is the key to accuracy! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="goodgrouper, post: 61437, member: 2852"] Dakor, I believe you. That is what I have been saying all along, Barnes are not the best long range bullet. One thing I would like to mention also is that Barnes bullets are made from copper wire that is brought in from a copper wire producer out of house. It is very common over there in American fork, Utah that some of the lots of copper don't react or swage like others. Barnes takes a bullet off the producion line at random, and tests it for all kinds of different things. If they get a lot of copper that doesn't perform up to specs, they "in theory" go back and scrap all that copper, and send it back to their copper supplier. Then they start over with a different lot. I say this is "in theory" because I have a friend who did his MBA thesis study on Barnes production management about 12 months ago, and he was in house for 5 weeks, and never saw them scrap any bullets and send them back to be melted down. Very interesting isn't it? I bring this up because it is entirely possible that the Barnes bullets I bought were from the lot that was "supposed" to be scrapped, and the ones you fellas bought were the good ones! It is possible is it not?? Oh, and by the way, you did not have to teach me about shrapnell inside animals causing damage. I have been shooting Ballistic tips for years on elk and deer just for that very idea. Massive damage internally is very effective, and Ballistic tips do way more damage internally then Barnes in my experience. Also, if you caught the implied meaning of my lot to lot theory of inconsistent copper, than you would have to agree that a bullet that is not consistant from lot to lot can't be good for long range as consistency is the key to accuracy! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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