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<blockquote data-quote="hera200" data-source="post: 1732442" data-attributes="member: 84846"><p>FREDDIE, How nice to hear someone with real experience say what I have been thinking for along while now while reading and enjoying this site so very much. Speaking from central Canada with many years of hunting everything from groundhogs to 5 to 600 pound black bear I don't feel there is such a thing as being ' over-gunned '. When watching something as small as a whitetail eat 308 and shotgun slugs and go scampering off like nothing had happened and then having to track endlessly I soon came to the conclusion that animals we hunt are much tougher than most people want to admit. I would NEVER encourage someone to hunt with any rifle smaller than WHAT THEY CAN HANDLE WELL. Yes I have heard all about destroying meat with large magnums but my 338 just BEHIND the shoulder does not really destroy much that I was going to eat anyway. But there is no more tracking. The quick kill is desirable in more ways than one. Sure bullet placement is extremely important as well as bullet type but it is SOMEWHAT less so with the larger caliber and higher velocities. And yes, I have read at long length that only blood loss is what kills and the animal does not know how big the hole in him is. I can only speak from personal experience when I say that anything shot with my 338 does not have any time to stop and think about what just happened --he is on his way to his next life because this one is over. Just watch a moose stand broadside while 180 grain 308 rounds are impacting the heart-lung area while looking like he is enjoying his morning walk and you start to become a believer. Sure he is dead and just does not know it yet but he is also still capable of making it into the nearby swamp so its more than just nasty to get him home. I know I could shoot AT the shoulder and anchor the animal hopefully on the spot but that is when a lot of meat loss occurs. And don't get me started on large black bears and what they can handle--they are what got me started on going to a magnum caliber many years ago. I realized I was just lucky that they usually head the other way when shot and I am including when the top of the heart was decimated by a 270. I never had this happen again after going to the 338. We all have to go with our own experience in life and sometimes we have to speak up even if it tends to go against the grain. That is what I think Freddie did and I just thought I would add a little to his point.....BUD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hera200, post: 1732442, member: 84846"] FREDDIE, How nice to hear someone with real experience say what I have been thinking for along while now while reading and enjoying this site so very much. Speaking from central Canada with many years of hunting everything from groundhogs to 5 to 600 pound black bear I don't feel there is such a thing as being ' over-gunned '. When watching something as small as a whitetail eat 308 and shotgun slugs and go scampering off like nothing had happened and then having to track endlessly I soon came to the conclusion that animals we hunt are much tougher than most people want to admit. I would NEVER encourage someone to hunt with any rifle smaller than WHAT THEY CAN HANDLE WELL. Yes I have heard all about destroying meat with large magnums but my 338 just BEHIND the shoulder does not really destroy much that I was going to eat anyway. But there is no more tracking. The quick kill is desirable in more ways than one. Sure bullet placement is extremely important as well as bullet type but it is SOMEWHAT less so with the larger caliber and higher velocities. And yes, I have read at long length that only blood loss is what kills and the animal does not know how big the hole in him is. I can only speak from personal experience when I say that anything shot with my 338 does not have any time to stop and think about what just happened --he is on his way to his next life because this one is over. Just watch a moose stand broadside while 180 grain 308 rounds are impacting the heart-lung area while looking like he is enjoying his morning walk and you start to become a believer. Sure he is dead and just does not know it yet but he is also still capable of making it into the nearby swamp so its more than just nasty to get him home. I know I could shoot AT the shoulder and anchor the animal hopefully on the spot but that is when a lot of meat loss occurs. And don't get me started on large black bears and what they can handle--they are what got me started on going to a magnum caliber many years ago. I realized I was just lucky that they usually head the other way when shot and I am including when the top of the heart was decimated by a 270. I never had this happen again after going to the 338. We all have to go with our own experience in life and sometimes we have to speak up even if it tends to go against the grain. That is what I think Freddie did and I just thought I would add a little to his point.....BUD [/QUOTE]
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