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Which neck turning systems does everyone prefer ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Patriot007" data-source="post: 2029257" data-attributes="member: 111276"><p>If you are serious, and a little OCD, or just finnicky about your work, "RELOADING". Go with K&M or 21Centry. You can not compare the cuts that is made by a RCBS, Hornady, Sinclair neck turning system, to the K&M and the 21Century neck turners. Its like comparing a Hyundai to a Mercedes. PMA make a real good set up, not as pricey as the K&M and 21Centry turners and it produces a Quality turned neck, no fuss. My father in law,,, in mentoring me through the years,, we have used the RCBS, Hornady, and Sinclair neck turning systems and found them to be lacking in,, Well lets just say what they produced wasn't what we were looking for. Today he uses the PMA system and I use the K&M System. A buddy of mine just got the 21Centry system 2 weeks ago and I helped him set it up and got him turning case necks and I'm very pleased with the out come of the finished case necks.. They Look just like the cases I turned on the K&M. What I like the most about the K&M turner is The tight fit on the pilot. It's tight with out any slop. The expanding mandrel and the pilot are a great match. That is the one thing that I was not happy with the 21Centry steel expander & pilot, just a little slop in that area, but it still produced a fine cut. Now,, to make some people mad. LOL.</p><p>People,, If you are turning your BRASS and your brass is getting HOT. You are turning your brass to fast. What will happen next is you will TWIST your case necks. You may not even be able to see it unless you are using a concentricity gauge. Also for lube, Imperial sizing wax is the best solution. For you guys using Graphite and 50 weight motor oil, your defeating the purpose and creating a mess all at the same time. All I'M GOING TO SAY ON THAT SUBJECT IS,, think about it. Graphite and heavy oil is not your friend in this area, if your are producing heat, slow it down and go slow and use imperial sizing wax. One more thing,, Buy CARBIDE when ever possible, That's the big reason I went with K&M and the big reason I did not go with the 21Centry system. I don't know every thing, but I do know this. I spent a lot of money in this area, I'm OCD, and when it comes to my work and my tools I'm very detailed oriented,,, I'll end on this note. Good luck on your new adventures in reloading, May you get more out of it, than you put in it. Here's some pics of some brand new Lapua brass that I just turn and fire formed this week end. In the last pic of the cases you can see that there is no blow back on the case necks. That's a good sign that my turning was a success and they all came out of my rifle with less than .0008 run out. Yep, that's just a little over half a thou. Be sure to scrub your chamber very well before fireforming your cases, after turning,,, if you have a pretty trued chamber, the concentricity you'll get, will amaze you. Have fun with what every toy you decide to play with. It will satisfy all of your needs, or you will have to buy some thing else down the road. Such as it goes with reloading. OH!!! The answer to your question is " Drum Roll" K&M!!! or what ever you decide.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]227386[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]227387[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]227388[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patriot007, post: 2029257, member: 111276"] If you are serious, and a little OCD, or just finnicky about your work, "RELOADING". Go with K&M or 21Centry. You can not compare the cuts that is made by a RCBS, Hornady, Sinclair neck turning system, to the K&M and the 21Century neck turners. Its like comparing a Hyundai to a Mercedes. PMA make a real good set up, not as pricey as the K&M and 21Centry turners and it produces a Quality turned neck, no fuss. My father in law,,, in mentoring me through the years,, we have used the RCBS, Hornady, and Sinclair neck turning systems and found them to be lacking in,, Well lets just say what they produced wasn't what we were looking for. Today he uses the PMA system and I use the K&M System. A buddy of mine just got the 21Centry system 2 weeks ago and I helped him set it up and got him turning case necks and I'm very pleased with the out come of the finished case necks.. They Look just like the cases I turned on the K&M. What I like the most about the K&M turner is The tight fit on the pilot. It's tight with out any slop. The expanding mandrel and the pilot are a great match. That is the one thing that I was not happy with the 21Centry steel expander & pilot, just a little slop in that area, but it still produced a fine cut. Now,, to make some people mad. LOL. People,, If you are turning your BRASS and your brass is getting HOT. You are turning your brass to fast. What will happen next is you will TWIST your case necks. You may not even be able to see it unless you are using a concentricity gauge. Also for lube, Imperial sizing wax is the best solution. For you guys using Graphite and 50 weight motor oil, your defeating the purpose and creating a mess all at the same time. All I'M GOING TO SAY ON THAT SUBJECT IS,, think about it. Graphite and heavy oil is not your friend in this area, if your are producing heat, slow it down and go slow and use imperial sizing wax. One more thing,, Buy CARBIDE when ever possible, That's the big reason I went with K&M and the big reason I did not go with the 21Centry system. I don't know every thing, but I do know this. I spent a lot of money in this area, I'm OCD, and when it comes to my work and my tools I'm very detailed oriented,,, I'll end on this note. Good luck on your new adventures in reloading, May you get more out of it, than you put in it. Here's some pics of some brand new Lapua brass that I just turn and fire formed this week end. In the last pic of the cases you can see that there is no blow back on the case necks. That's a good sign that my turning was a success and they all came out of my rifle with less than .0008 run out. Yep, that's just a little over half a thou. Be sure to scrub your chamber very well before fireforming your cases, after turning,,, if you have a pretty trued chamber, the concentricity you'll get, will amaze you. Have fun with what every toy you decide to play with. It will satisfy all of your needs, or you will have to buy some thing else down the road. Such as it goes with reloading. OH!!! The answer to your question is " Drum Roll" K&M!!! or what ever you decide.:) [ATTACH=full]227386[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]227387[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]227388[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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