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Which 7mm to build???
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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 599209" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Because of all the shooting you are planning on I still think the 300 wsm will better suit you. The barrel life is far greater than the 7mm-300 wsm and with the 210 berger is a good long range hunter. Any 7mm cartridge that will equal the 300 wsm at long range hunting will have much less barrel life, even the 280 AI I love. That is the point I am trying to make.</p><p> </p><p>I have many 7mm rifles and love to shoot them but for what you are doing you need to look at barrel wear. But if you are stuck on the 7mm thing I would still do the 280 AI because of the least barrel wear in a 7mm cartridge that will get you out there a ways. It is a fun cartridge to shoot and very accurate. Brass is cheap and you are within 75-100 fps of the 7mm remington.</p><p> </p><p>I went back and read some of this. Broz and Wildrose are both on with their info and the 7mm-300 winny is a slightly less barrel burner than the 7mm stw. But both are way more barrel burners than you need. I haven't seen one that would shoot that fast but doesn't mean he doesn't have one. I have five 7mm STW's and love that cartridge for launching high bc bullets way out there at deer and antelope. But they are single shot with the new long high bc vld bullets. The winny is shorter and gives you a little more room. But if I was doing a super 7mm right now it would be the 7mm SIN which is an improved Dakota with the velocity of an RUM and the length of a 338 winny which is shorter than the 300 winny. Plenty of room to seat long bullets with top velocity in 7mm. This new stuff wasn't available in the 70's when I did my STW's. They weren't even called STW's for nearly twenty more years. But all this is way beyond what you need or want for a lot of shooting. The 300 wsm is the best choice for your purpose.</p><p> </p><p>By the way a well placed arrow at 110 yards will kill anything in north america. The key is having the right arrow and knowing how to judge the personality of the animal to make the shot. I have taken grizzlies, elk, moose, caribou, deer, antelope, hogs and who knows what all else with a bow with quite a few over 100 yards. I had two guys with me last year in Alaska who shot caribou near 100 yards. It was funny because the caribou know how far to stay away from bowhunters and looked dumbfounded getting shot that far.</p><p> </p><p>Went on JBM to run the numbers of my 7mm remington with 168's and 180's against my 300 wsm with 210's. With my accuracy loads this is for 1000 yards. Windage is 49.3" for all three. But the energy was way in the favor of the 300 wsm having 1546 ft lbs vs 1259 for the 168 and 1272 for the 180 out of the 7mm remington. The 300 wsm has way better barrel life. I would shoot the 300 wsm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 599209, member: 505"] Because of all the shooting you are planning on I still think the 300 wsm will better suit you. The barrel life is far greater than the 7mm-300 wsm and with the 210 berger is a good long range hunter. Any 7mm cartridge that will equal the 300 wsm at long range hunting will have much less barrel life, even the 280 AI I love. That is the point I am trying to make. I have many 7mm rifles and love to shoot them but for what you are doing you need to look at barrel wear. But if you are stuck on the 7mm thing I would still do the 280 AI because of the least barrel wear in a 7mm cartridge that will get you out there a ways. It is a fun cartridge to shoot and very accurate. Brass is cheap and you are within 75-100 fps of the 7mm remington. I went back and read some of this. Broz and Wildrose are both on with their info and the 7mm-300 winny is a slightly less barrel burner than the 7mm stw. But both are way more barrel burners than you need. I haven't seen one that would shoot that fast but doesn't mean he doesn't have one. I have five 7mm STW's and love that cartridge for launching high bc bullets way out there at deer and antelope. But they are single shot with the new long high bc vld bullets. The winny is shorter and gives you a little more room. But if I was doing a super 7mm right now it would be the 7mm SIN which is an improved Dakota with the velocity of an RUM and the length of a 338 winny which is shorter than the 300 winny. Plenty of room to seat long bullets with top velocity in 7mm. This new stuff wasn't available in the 70's when I did my STW's. They weren't even called STW's for nearly twenty more years. But all this is way beyond what you need or want for a lot of shooting. The 300 wsm is the best choice for your purpose. By the way a well placed arrow at 110 yards will kill anything in north america. The key is having the right arrow and knowing how to judge the personality of the animal to make the shot. I have taken grizzlies, elk, moose, caribou, deer, antelope, hogs and who knows what all else with a bow with quite a few over 100 yards. I had two guys with me last year in Alaska who shot caribou near 100 yards. It was funny because the caribou know how far to stay away from bowhunters and looked dumbfounded getting shot that far. Went on JBM to run the numbers of my 7mm remington with 168's and 180's against my 300 wsm with 210's. With my accuracy loads this is for 1000 yards. Windage is 49.3" for all three. But the energy was way in the favor of the 300 wsm having 1546 ft lbs vs 1259 for the 168 and 1272 for the 180 out of the 7mm remington. The 300 wsm has way better barrel life. I would shoot the 300 wsm. [/QUOTE]
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