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When is a bullet to heavy?
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<blockquote data-quote="lhedrick1" data-source="post: 2014046" data-attributes="member: 116057"><p>The most important thing is sizing the bullet to the game you are hunting. A 200 gr Accubond is too heavy for the .308 anyways and too big IMO for antelope sized game. At 550 yards your likely less than 1800 fps impact velocity which is less than Noslers minimum for expansion.</p><p></p><p>Again, just my opinion, the 140s seem to shine in the 6.5s as an all around bullet. If you want to squeeze a little more speed you can drop down to a 120 or 130 gr for deer sized animals or smaller no problem. I shot an antelope twice (unnecessarily) behind the shoulder at 200 yards with my 6.5 CM and a 121 gr Hammer bullet. There would have been zero need for anything larger, it made an absolute mess of the insides. The bullet options are overwhelming in the 6.5s and you've got one of the best cartridges in that family so shouldn't be too find a good combo. Im reading more and more on the 143 ELD X in the 6.5s, lot of people like it.</p><p></p><p>In the .284s thinking deer to elk sized game, I like the 160 gr variety. Dad shoots .146 gr Hammers out of his .280 AI with excellent results. We shot 1 goat and two mule deer with that combo this year all between 350 and 400 yards and it was impressive. One thing with copper bullets is they are lighter in weight but just as big or bigger than their heavier lead core bullets. For example a 150 gr Barnes TTSX in .308 is closer to the mass of say a 165 gr BT.</p><p></p><p>I shot the mule deer in my avatar at 300 yards with a 180 gr Partition out of a 300 Weatherby. I fired 3 rounds in 10 seconds or less. The first shot nothing really appeared to happen other than he slowed down and kept walking but like in slow motion. Like a statue. The 2nd shot his back knees sort of touched and he slowed down even more. He looked like he was hurt but I couldnt tell from where, gut shot maybe? So he's now quartering away from me going away I out the crossairs where the neck meets the shoulder and touched one off. He disappeared into the trees. Later found out thats where he collapsed. The 1st and 2nd shots were double lung clean pass-through and a disaster of bone and blood. The 3rd shot entered his hind quarter went through the entire length of his body and stopped just inside the hide on his chest below the neck. Though he was a dead deer walking, my expectation was he should have dropped instantly. But too big of a bullet. If I ever take the 300 mag deer hunting, it will be with a 150 or 165 gr bullet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lhedrick1, post: 2014046, member: 116057"] The most important thing is sizing the bullet to the game you are hunting. A 200 gr Accubond is too heavy for the .308 anyways and too big IMO for antelope sized game. At 550 yards your likely less than 1800 fps impact velocity which is less than Noslers minimum for expansion. Again, just my opinion, the 140s seem to shine in the 6.5s as an all around bullet. If you want to squeeze a little more speed you can drop down to a 120 or 130 gr for deer sized animals or smaller no problem. I shot an antelope twice (unnecessarily) behind the shoulder at 200 yards with my 6.5 CM and a 121 gr Hammer bullet. There would have been zero need for anything larger, it made an absolute mess of the insides. The bullet options are overwhelming in the 6.5s and you've got one of the best cartridges in that family so shouldn't be too find a good combo. Im reading more and more on the 143 ELD X in the 6.5s, lot of people like it. In the .284s thinking deer to elk sized game, I like the 160 gr variety. Dad shoots .146 gr Hammers out of his .280 AI with excellent results. We shot 1 goat and two mule deer with that combo this year all between 350 and 400 yards and it was impressive. One thing with copper bullets is they are lighter in weight but just as big or bigger than their heavier lead core bullets. For example a 150 gr Barnes TTSX in .308 is closer to the mass of say a 165 gr BT. I shot the mule deer in my avatar at 300 yards with a 180 gr Partition out of a 300 Weatherby. I fired 3 rounds in 10 seconds or less. The first shot nothing really appeared to happen other than he slowed down and kept walking but like in slow motion. Like a statue. The 2nd shot his back knees sort of touched and he slowed down even more. He looked like he was hurt but I couldnt tell from where, gut shot maybe? So he's now quartering away from me going away I out the crossairs where the neck meets the shoulder and touched one off. He disappeared into the trees. Later found out thats where he collapsed. The 1st and 2nd shots were double lung clean pass-through and a disaster of bone and blood. The 3rd shot entered his hind quarter went through the entire length of his body and stopped just inside the hide on his chest below the neck. Though he was a dead deer walking, my expectation was he should have dropped instantly. But too big of a bullet. If I ever take the 300 mag deer hunting, it will be with a 150 or 165 gr bullet. [/QUOTE]
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