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<blockquote data-quote="User4302021" data-source="post: 1493953" data-attributes="member: 105322"><p>To which comment are you refering, and if you aren't sure, then what qualifies you to judge that?</p><p></p><p>I never said that for one, so don't know where that came from. Secondly, the issue at hand isn't small changes in POI, it is missing by feet at 400 yds from the prone.</p><p></p><p> But to answer your question, shooting a consistent POI at 400 yards without a rear bag isn't all that hard. After all, Marines and soldiers and plenty of others are doing it just about everyday and hitting targets much smaller than an accommodating elk.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you had actually taken the time to run those numbers in something like JBM, or maybe had the experience of actually shooting at those extremes you mentioned, you would know that the lower temperature and higher altitude are offsetting factors that leave you with an almost identical come up in both scenarios at 400 yards.</p><p></p><p>Basically, out to almost 500 yards, your environmentals don't matter. For virtually every one of the big game rounds we hunt with, your dope doesn't change enough to be an issue, especially with a 200 yard zero. From sea level at 80 degrees to 20 degrees at 10,000 ft. ASL, your dope changes less than 0.5 MOA at 400 yds.</p><p></p><p>You don't have to believe me, run the numbers yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="User4302021, post: 1493953, member: 105322"] To which comment are you refering, and if you aren't sure, then what qualifies you to judge that? I never said that for one, so don't know where that came from. Secondly, the issue at hand isn't small changes in POI, it is missing by feet at 400 yds from the prone. But to answer your question, shooting a consistent POI at 400 yards without a rear bag isn't all that hard. After all, Marines and soldiers and plenty of others are doing it just about everyday and hitting targets much smaller than an accommodating elk. If you had actually taken the time to run those numbers in something like JBM, or maybe had the experience of actually shooting at those extremes you mentioned, you would know that the lower temperature and higher altitude are offsetting factors that leave you with an almost identical come up in both scenarios at 400 yards. Basically, out to almost 500 yards, your environmentals don't matter. For virtually every one of the big game rounds we hunt with, your dope doesn't change enough to be an issue, especially with a 200 yard zero. From sea level at 80 degrees to 20 degrees at 10,000 ft. ASL, your dope changes less than 0.5 MOA at 400 yds. You don't have to believe me, run the numbers yourself. [/QUOTE]
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