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<blockquote data-quote="cajun" data-source="post: 2819856" data-attributes="member: 9772"><p>Well as others have stated and you probably know from experience Rcbs, Hornady and Redding standard dies can produce accurate hunting ammo. The next step up is bushing dies of which the Redding seems to be most popular. With the bushing you can control how much you size the neck down. Most guys are ditching the expander and using mandrels to expand the neck. The main advantage is you are not sizing the necks way down then back up increasing brass life. Now with hunting ammo I have not had an issue with split necks. The primer pockets will usually go first anyway if loading warm. The other thing would be in sizing necks way down and pulling an expander through the thought is you can get concentricity or runout issues. I have not found this to prevent me from loading sub moa ammo with standard dies at the distances I shoot. Just be aware if you use a bushing die you need to run an expander or mandrel inside the neck as a last step unless you want to get into neck turning or use Lapua brass. Sizing from the outside pushes any difference in neck thickness inside the neck and can actually induce more runout than a standard die. If you want to know the best practice for long range hunting or target then look at what those guys do. I think predominantly they turn necks and use bushing dies with a mandrel and a wilson inline seater with an arbor press and force gauge to measure seating force. That's a lot of work and expense unless you need that much precision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cajun, post: 2819856, member: 9772"] Well as others have stated and you probably know from experience Rcbs, Hornady and Redding standard dies can produce accurate hunting ammo. The next step up is bushing dies of which the Redding seems to be most popular. With the bushing you can control how much you size the neck down. Most guys are ditching the expander and using mandrels to expand the neck. The main advantage is you are not sizing the necks way down then back up increasing brass life. Now with hunting ammo I have not had an issue with split necks. The primer pockets will usually go first anyway if loading warm. The other thing would be in sizing necks way down and pulling an expander through the thought is you can get concentricity or runout issues. I have not found this to prevent me from loading sub moa ammo with standard dies at the distances I shoot. Just be aware if you use a bushing die you need to run an expander or mandrel inside the neck as a last step unless you want to get into neck turning or use Lapua brass. Sizing from the outside pushes any difference in neck thickness inside the neck and can actually induce more runout than a standard die. If you want to know the best practice for long range hunting or target then look at what those guys do. I think predominantly they turn necks and use bushing dies with a mandrel and a wilson inline seater with an arbor press and force gauge to measure seating force. That’s a lot of work and expense unless you need that much precision. [/QUOTE]
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