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What do you see with virgin vs. once fired.
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<blockquote data-quote="RegionRat" data-source="post: 2858466" data-attributes="member: 57231"><p>If you shot much highpower before factory brass for popular wildcats of 6BR or 284WIN were available, then at some point you probably got beat by someone who was fire-forming their brass during during a match.</p><p></p><p>But many beginning reloaders are young and discount the older adages as obsolete or outdated. Then we must point out more recent examples using up to date hardware and materials.</p><p></p><p>When folks like Austin Buschman go on record for having won recent major PRS matches while using virgin brass, then there should be a little less consternation over the question of the performance when using virgin brass with a very recent context.</p><p></p><p>The context of the shooting certainly matters, but that doesn't mean that virgin brass will always loose or perform badly so I will typically suggest a reloader learn the differences rather than assume it won't perform well. </p><p></p><p>Without a doubt, a seasoned ranking BR shooter can demonstrate the performance differences between virgin and fully fire-formed brass. Even many highpower shooters can easily show a side-by-side demo of the differences that are statistically significant. </p><p></p><p>There are examples of guns and brass where the virgin cycle is unacceptable, but that is found by testing rather than assumptions. As often as not, virgin brass can perform well enough that many shooters cannot shoot the difference or the difference is small and manageable.</p><p></p><p>For many of us, there has never been a question that we will need to use virgin brass for things that count like hunting or competition. You learn to manage the difference.</p><p></p><p>Should virgin brass and fire-formed reloaded brass be expected to shoot identical DOPE, no probably not. Some energy is used on that brass fit and it depends on the brass and chamber how big that difference will be. You may or may not shoot the identical load, but having another load adjustment for virgin brass is a small price to pay to use that virgin cycle.</p><p></p><p>Good quality virgin brass, in a good chamber/barrel can perform very well, but it may require a little difference in material management when the user has to use that virgin cycle and then the reloaded brass too. YMMV</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RegionRat, post: 2858466, member: 57231"] If you shot much highpower before factory brass for popular wildcats of 6BR or 284WIN were available, then at some point you probably got beat by someone who was fire-forming their brass during during a match. But many beginning reloaders are young and discount the older adages as obsolete or outdated. Then we must point out more recent examples using up to date hardware and materials. When folks like Austin Buschman go on record for having won recent major PRS matches while using virgin brass, then there should be a little less consternation over the question of the performance when using virgin brass with a very recent context. The context of the shooting certainly matters, but that doesn't mean that virgin brass will always loose or perform badly so I will typically suggest a reloader learn the differences rather than assume it won't perform well. Without a doubt, a seasoned ranking BR shooter can demonstrate the performance differences between virgin and fully fire-formed brass. Even many highpower shooters can easily show a side-by-side demo of the differences that are statistically significant. There are examples of guns and brass where the virgin cycle is unacceptable, but that is found by testing rather than assumptions. As often as not, virgin brass can perform well enough that many shooters cannot shoot the difference or the difference is small and manageable. For many of us, there has never been a question that we will need to use virgin brass for things that count like hunting or competition. You learn to manage the difference. Should virgin brass and fire-formed reloaded brass be expected to shoot identical DOPE, no probably not. Some energy is used on that brass fit and it depends on the brass and chamber how big that difference will be. You may or may not shoot the identical load, but having another load adjustment for virgin brass is a small price to pay to use that virgin cycle. Good quality virgin brass, in a good chamber/barrel can perform very well, but it may require a little difference in material management when the user has to use that virgin cycle and then the reloaded brass too. YMMV [/QUOTE]
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