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<blockquote data-quote="westcliffe01" data-source="post: 877194" data-attributes="member: 35183"><p>So here is my experience:</p><p></p><p>Savage 12 LPV in stainless with factory 26" fluted barrel </p><p>So so performance, could not shoot 95gr Berger VLD's</p><p>Replaced with a 26" Shilen select match Varmint contour prefit 1:8 with 243 AI chamber and now shoots the 95gr Bergers to less than 1/2MOA.</p><p>Sold Savage takeoff for $180 and paid $330 for the Shilen = $150 out of pocket</p><p>No issues with fitting whatsoever</p><p></p><p>Savage 10 in 308</p><p>Bought as a used gun.. PO fitted a Shilen 26" Varmint barrel, Rifle Basix trigger, incorrect recoil lug and re-used original smooth barrel nut. Barreled action was bedded into laminate stock up to end of smooth nut. Barrel nut was not torqued properly, could not be because of Remington recoil lug with 1/16" locating pin which was too long and binding up the nut before it seated against the recoil lug. PO told me "it shoots great".... yep.. Replaced nut and recoil lug. Swapped trigger here on the forum for an original Savage Accutrigger. Ground out the bedding compound ahead of the recoil lug.</p><p>Rifle now shoots 1/4 MOA with my 175 SMK load with varget powder and LC 12 LR brass.</p><p></p><p>Savage 110 initially 270Win. Removed CM sporter barrel and plastic stock. Replaced rifle Basix trigger with factory accutrigger. Bought Hogue stock for $190 and obtained a long action bottom metal and DBM. Ordered custom Shilen Select Match 26" barrel in 8x57. Barrel took 3 months to arrive at my door for a custom. Installed with a new recoil lug and barrel nut. Have not yet even started load development, but it shoots the Yugo 8x57 sniper ammo (was sold on Wideners) better than 1MOA @50c/round. The Rem 700 "Classic" I had could not shoot this same stuff better than 2.5MOA.</p><p></p><p>So I have had 3 positive experiences with 3 different Shilen select match prefit barrels. I have probably spent as much on these 3 barrels as what a typical Remington owner spends to fit 1 barrel and true his action. If thats what someone chooses to do, fine, it is their money. However, I have yet to meet a Remington owner who's rifle shot substantially better than my own. I have met a few who have complained bitterly about how much copper fouling they get with their new $900 barrels. Shilen makes long or short or long chambered barrels for the Remington action too, to reduce the work it takes to fit it to the action.</p><p></p><p>I am not claiming to be a benchrest champion or even a competitive shooter, but frankly I fail to see how my experience is going to be magically transformed by the application of another $600 per barrel so that someone who's job is highly diversified can spend a few hours cutting a chamber in my blank in a 20 year old manual lathe. My experience has been that QC at Shilen is very reliable and effective. If there are issues, they will generally catch them before the part ever goes out the door. it is fairly well known that Shilen had issues this year with 6.5mm blanks and that the yield of blanks that meet their "select match" criteria was rather low. That resulted in a several month long delay on my 6.5x284 barrel, but I am confident that when I do finally get it, it will be my 4th story about my satisfaction with their prefit barrels.</p><p></p><p>Against a backdrop where every Remington rifle I touched was a lemon, I can say that every Shilen has been lemonade and I am going to keep supporting them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westcliffe01, post: 877194, member: 35183"] So here is my experience: Savage 12 LPV in stainless with factory 26" fluted barrel So so performance, could not shoot 95gr Berger VLD's Replaced with a 26" Shilen select match Varmint contour prefit 1:8 with 243 AI chamber and now shoots the 95gr Bergers to less than 1/2MOA. Sold Savage takeoff for $180 and paid $330 for the Shilen = $150 out of pocket No issues with fitting whatsoever Savage 10 in 308 Bought as a used gun.. PO fitted a Shilen 26" Varmint barrel, Rifle Basix trigger, incorrect recoil lug and re-used original smooth barrel nut. Barreled action was bedded into laminate stock up to end of smooth nut. Barrel nut was not torqued properly, could not be because of Remington recoil lug with 1/16" locating pin which was too long and binding up the nut before it seated against the recoil lug. PO told me "it shoots great".... yep.. Replaced nut and recoil lug. Swapped trigger here on the forum for an original Savage Accutrigger. Ground out the bedding compound ahead of the recoil lug. Rifle now shoots 1/4 MOA with my 175 SMK load with varget powder and LC 12 LR brass. Savage 110 initially 270Win. Removed CM sporter barrel and plastic stock. Replaced rifle Basix trigger with factory accutrigger. Bought Hogue stock for $190 and obtained a long action bottom metal and DBM. Ordered custom Shilen Select Match 26" barrel in 8x57. Barrel took 3 months to arrive at my door for a custom. Installed with a new recoil lug and barrel nut. Have not yet even started load development, but it shoots the Yugo 8x57 sniper ammo (was sold on Wideners) better than 1MOA @50c/round. The Rem 700 "Classic" I had could not shoot this same stuff better than 2.5MOA. So I have had 3 positive experiences with 3 different Shilen select match prefit barrels. I have probably spent as much on these 3 barrels as what a typical Remington owner spends to fit 1 barrel and true his action. If thats what someone chooses to do, fine, it is their money. However, I have yet to meet a Remington owner who's rifle shot substantially better than my own. I have met a few who have complained bitterly about how much copper fouling they get with their new $900 barrels. Shilen makes long or short or long chambered barrels for the Remington action too, to reduce the work it takes to fit it to the action. I am not claiming to be a benchrest champion or even a competitive shooter, but frankly I fail to see how my experience is going to be magically transformed by the application of another $600 per barrel so that someone who's job is highly diversified can spend a few hours cutting a chamber in my blank in a 20 year old manual lathe. My experience has been that QC at Shilen is very reliable and effective. If there are issues, they will generally catch them before the part ever goes out the door. it is fairly well known that Shilen had issues this year with 6.5mm blanks and that the yield of blanks that meet their "select match" criteria was rather low. That resulted in a several month long delay on my 6.5x284 barrel, but I am confident that when I do finally get it, it will be my 4th story about my satisfaction with their prefit barrels. Against a backdrop where every Remington rifle I touched was a lemon, I can say that every Shilen has been lemonade and I am going to keep supporting them. [/QUOTE]
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