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What caliber 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag
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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 502273" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>I think we need to go back to what one of the other posters said earlier. Neither one of these cartridges is a very good choice for long range shooting over 1000 yards when there are so many good ones available now for the purpose. </p><p> </p><p>Within the effective range of both these cartridges the 300 winchester wins by driving heavier larger caliber bullets with the same or higher bc's as fast or faster than the 7mm remington. Both are equally accurate at putting a bullet where it belongs at any range. One could certainly argue the 300 winchester is the more accurate long range rifle because of all the championships it has won vs the 7mm remington but I throw that out the window because we are talking hunting.</p><p> </p><p>Here is the issue. If I was shooting the 7mm remington at 1500 yards I would get the heaviest highest bc bullet available. So I shoot the 180 berger for instance with a mid .6's bc at 2850 fps. That is just to low a bc going to slow a velocity to appeal to me in any way at long range hunting considering all the better choices available. The 7mm remington just can not get the velocity required with a high enough bc to compete with some of the other cartridges at extreme long range. It is just not pushing a high enough bc bullet fast enough to get into the extreme range game. It is certainly best and should be kept inside 1000 yards. If a guy is shooting further he needs to get a rifle more capable but never try to go beyond the best effective range for your weapon no matter what your shooting. As far as the recoil question being thrown into the discussion how many can tell the difference between a 7mm remington with a 170 or 180 vs a 300 winchester with a 180. If you measured it there is a slight difference but shooting it a wash.</p><p> </p><p>Now within 1000 yard hunting where the 7mm remington is most effective on game the 300 winchester can top it because of a larger caliber and case capacity combined with currently available bullets. </p><p> </p><p>That is the reason I have said in many posts the highest bc bullet may or may not be the right choice. Within the best effective range of your weapon a lighter faster bullet may be the best choice for hunting. With targets always go with the highest bc bullet your rifle will shoot the most accurate. All the other things you must consider in a hunting situation are out the window with targets because the criteria changes.</p><p> </p><p>In hunting it is not the highest BC you can shoot the furthest but the best bullet for the distance your rifle is most capable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 502273, member: 505"] I think we need to go back to what one of the other posters said earlier. Neither one of these cartridges is a very good choice for long range shooting over 1000 yards when there are so many good ones available now for the purpose. Within the effective range of both these cartridges the 300 winchester wins by driving heavier larger caliber bullets with the same or higher bc's as fast or faster than the 7mm remington. Both are equally accurate at putting a bullet where it belongs at any range. One could certainly argue the 300 winchester is the more accurate long range rifle because of all the championships it has won vs the 7mm remington but I throw that out the window because we are talking hunting. Here is the issue. If I was shooting the 7mm remington at 1500 yards I would get the heaviest highest bc bullet available. So I shoot the 180 berger for instance with a mid .6's bc at 2850 fps. That is just to low a bc going to slow a velocity to appeal to me in any way at long range hunting considering all the better choices available. The 7mm remington just can not get the velocity required with a high enough bc to compete with some of the other cartridges at extreme long range. It is just not pushing a high enough bc bullet fast enough to get into the extreme range game. It is certainly best and should be kept inside 1000 yards. If a guy is shooting further he needs to get a rifle more capable but never try to go beyond the best effective range for your weapon no matter what your shooting. As far as the recoil question being thrown into the discussion how many can tell the difference between a 7mm remington with a 170 or 180 vs a 300 winchester with a 180. If you measured it there is a slight difference but shooting it a wash. Now within 1000 yard hunting where the 7mm remington is most effective on game the 300 winchester can top it because of a larger caliber and case capacity combined with currently available bullets. That is the reason I have said in many posts the highest bc bullet may or may not be the right choice. Within the best effective range of your weapon a lighter faster bullet may be the best choice for hunting. With targets always go with the highest bc bullet your rifle will shoot the most accurate. All the other things you must consider in a hunting situation are out the window with targets because the criteria changes. In hunting it is not the highest BC you can shoot the furthest but the best bullet for the distance your rifle is most capable. [/QUOTE]
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