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What’s wrong with the SA 2020 Waypoint rifle?
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<blockquote data-quote="QuietTexan" data-source="post: 2733491" data-attributes="member: 116181"><p>I've been able to mess around with one. Seems nice, action feels good - looser than a Seekins but tighter than a Remington. Felt like a feather, handled lighter than an Anti-X/Proof Carbon to me but I didn't have them side by side at the same time so could be bias there, comparing based on neither having scopes on and that can be a little bit or a lotta bit of weight depending on what you want to run. Topped the SA with a low-power Vortex that was fairly light so it still balanced well.</p><p></p><p>Chamber was a 6.5 CM, pretty hard to mess that up. For all the hate they get for being a fad it's an easy cartridge to shoot (I swear half of the "it shoots SO GOOD" myth of the 6.5 CM is because the shooter wasn't getting his nuts kicked to his throat by his pappy's metal butt plated 300 WM any more <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" />). Shot factory ammo well enough to zero it and send it on it's way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Man you need to 1) make a relationship with a smith, and 2) shop your own parts. I've never spent $6,000 on any rifle, ever. Scopes yes, rifles heck no. $1100 for a Defiance Tenacity, $450 for a barrel from Bugholes, $1k for Foundation stock that came in under 8 weeks, $250 trigger and about $500 for the metal work and bedding. $3,250 out the door unless you want to put fancy paint jobs or a bunch of BS extras into it. If I have parts in hand the turn around is measured in weeks for my guy, he'll cut a heck of a chamber too.</p><p></p><p>Even if you want a full-on benchrest something fancy, once you eat the cost of a BAT Action nothing else costs more. BR shops stock barrels just like PRS shops stock pre-fits. </p><p></p><p>It's guys who have no relationship to the shop, who show up in October asking for a new rig that they just have to have right away for a hunt that was scheduled two years ago, making weird demands from the internet that they just have to have because <em>that's what the internet says my dude </em>- THAT drives shops mad. And the long lead times are mainly for odd parts - if you want an 8 twist .264 there are 19 of those barrel blanks lined up, but the guy that has to have the custom 7.785 twist because that's what the internet told him is magic for his Creedmoor, enjoy that wait buddy.</p><p></p><p>If a shop has something you want, there's a reason (it's COMMON). If the shop doesn't have what you want, there's also a reason for it - it's probably stupid and you shouldn't do it. I'm fortunate that my guy has a screw or three loose like I do, and when I show up it's time to work and not ask questions <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuietTexan, post: 2733491, member: 116181"] I've been able to mess around with one. Seems nice, action feels good - looser than a Seekins but tighter than a Remington. Felt like a feather, handled lighter than an Anti-X/Proof Carbon to me but I didn't have them side by side at the same time so could be bias there, comparing based on neither having scopes on and that can be a little bit or a lotta bit of weight depending on what you want to run. Topped the SA with a low-power Vortex that was fairly light so it still balanced well. Chamber was a 6.5 CM, pretty hard to mess that up. For all the hate they get for being a fad it's an easy cartridge to shoot (I swear half of the "it shoots SO GOOD" myth of the 6.5 CM is because the shooter wasn't getting his nuts kicked to his throat by his pappy's metal butt plated 300 WM any more 🤣). Shot factory ammo well enough to zero it and send it on it's way. Man you need to 1) make a relationship with a smith, and 2) shop your own parts. I've never spent $6,000 on any rifle, ever. Scopes yes, rifles heck no. $1100 for a Defiance Tenacity, $450 for a barrel from Bugholes, $1k for Foundation stock that came in under 8 weeks, $250 trigger and about $500 for the metal work and bedding. $3,250 out the door unless you want to put fancy paint jobs or a bunch of BS extras into it. If I have parts in hand the turn around is measured in weeks for my guy, he'll cut a heck of a chamber too. Even if you want a full-on benchrest something fancy, once you eat the cost of a BAT Action nothing else costs more. BR shops stock barrels just like PRS shops stock pre-fits. It's guys who have no relationship to the shop, who show up in October asking for a new rig that they just have to have right away for a hunt that was scheduled two years ago, making weird demands from the internet that they just have to have because [I]that's what the internet says my dude [/I]- THAT drives shops mad. And the long lead times are mainly for odd parts - if you want an 8 twist .264 there are 19 of those barrel blanks lined up, but the guy that has to have the custom 7.785 twist because that's what the internet told him is magic for his Creedmoor, enjoy that wait buddy. If a shop has something you want, there's a reason (it's COMMON). If the shop doesn't have what you want, there's also a reason for it - it's probably stupid and you shouldn't do it. I'm fortunate that my guy has a screw or three loose like I do, and when I show up it's time to work and not ask questions 🤣 [/QUOTE]
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