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Well finally did it...sold all my reloading stuff !! Anyone else shooting factory ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Coyote_Hunter" data-source="post: 1877390" data-attributes="member: 110773"><p>As with you, guns are tools to me. I'm not particularly concerned about how they look but any rifle that doesn't shoot goes down the road.</p><p></p><p>A couple of my rifles have long, heavy barrels, making them more suited to bench shooting than carrying around the mountains hunting elk. For them I want as much accuracy as I can get. For the hunters, 1MOA is good enough for the bolt guns and 1-1/2 MOA for the levers. All of my rifles will do that, most much better.</p><p></p><p>I haven't found it necessary to spend "hours at the reloading bench" trying to find accurate loads. Typical load development for me is to build two sets of work-up loads for each bullet/powder combination. There are typically 5-6 loads in each set with 0.5g increments in the powder charge between adjacent loads in a set. I may do 1 or two identical sets per bullet/powder combination. Each load gets chronographed for velocity and the POI is recorded. If I find tight groups with 3 powder charges, I pick a middle value for subsequent testing. That middle value usually becomes my standard load. </p><p></p><p>That method is quick, easy and cheap. The first time to the range with my 6.5CM and handloads I took 5 bullet/powder combinations. Four had 5 rounds per set, one had six, giving 10 or 12 loads per combination. That was 52 loaded rounds total and I didn't need to fire them all to get what I wanted - the remaining loads came home and were disassembled to save the components. The results were four sub .4MOA loads and another that was .8MOA. Three loads used hunting bullets (129g ABLR, 130g Scirocco II and 143g ELD-X) and one used a match bullet (140g ELD-M).</p><p></p><p>How many trips to the range would it take to find five sub MOA loads? I tried 7-8 different types of factory ammo in a .30-06 Dad gave me. Really wanted to keep that rifle but after Dad passed it went down the road - It wouldn't do better than 1-1/2MOA at best and I already had three .30-06 rifles and all shoot MOA or better with my handloads.</p><p></p><p>Like you, I don't care how others spend their time. Some people like to chase white balls around in the grass. That's fine by me as it keeps them off my shooting range. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coyote_Hunter, post: 1877390, member: 110773"] As with you, guns are tools to me. I'm not particularly concerned about how they look but any rifle that doesn't shoot goes down the road. A couple of my rifles have long, heavy barrels, making them more suited to bench shooting than carrying around the mountains hunting elk. For them I want as much accuracy as I can get. For the hunters, 1MOA is good enough for the bolt guns and 1-1/2 MOA for the levers. All of my rifles will do that, most much better. I haven't found it necessary to spend "hours at the reloading bench" trying to find accurate loads. Typical load development for me is to build two sets of work-up loads for each bullet/powder combination. There are typically 5-6 loads in each set with 0.5g increments in the powder charge between adjacent loads in a set. I may do 1 or two identical sets per bullet/powder combination. Each load gets chronographed for velocity and the POI is recorded. If I find tight groups with 3 powder charges, I pick a middle value for subsequent testing. That middle value usually becomes my standard load. That method is quick, easy and cheap. The first time to the range with my 6.5CM and handloads I took 5 bullet/powder combinations. Four had 5 rounds per set, one had six, giving 10 or 12 loads per combination. That was 52 loaded rounds total and I didn't need to fire them all to get what I wanted - the remaining loads came home and were disassembled to save the components. The results were four sub .4MOA loads and another that was .8MOA. Three loads used hunting bullets (129g ABLR, 130g Scirocco II and 143g ELD-X) and one used a match bullet (140g ELD-M). How many trips to the range would it take to find five sub MOA loads? I tried 7-8 different types of factory ammo in a .30-06 Dad gave me. Really wanted to keep that rifle but after Dad passed it went down the road - It wouldn't do better than 1-1/2MOA at best and I already had three .30-06 rifles and all shoot MOA or better with my handloads. Like you, I don't care how others spend their time. Some people like to chase white balls around in the grass. That's fine by me as it keeps them off my shooting range. :) [/QUOTE]
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