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Velocity gains in .260 Remington?
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<blockquote data-quote="WindTrax" data-source="post: 34744" data-attributes="member: 2606"><p>The gun smith was Jim Cloward. </p><p></p><p>Around 20 pictures showing what areas I felt were problems are at:</p><p><a href="http://groups.msn.com/RockCrawler4x4/customriflefromjimcloward.msnw" target="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/RockCrawler4x4/customriflefromjimcloward.msnw</a></p><p></p><p>I took the rifle back, and after a great deal of objection and exasperation on his part he did agree to work on it a bit more. After his getting the work done late, I went to pick up the rifle. He had glued the (somewhat undersized due to over-sanding/grinding) pad onto the stock to eliminate the gaps -mostly (and some glue left on the stock), he machined the shroud to eliminate the contact between the shroud and receiver under recoil (done well), he put a very light coat of something blackish and chalky on at least some areas of the stock inletting (apparently in an effort to address my moisture concernsbut it was so thin I ended up redoing it all myself) and he rethroated the barrel as requested. He then told me that "he had more experience than 20 of me" and that I was making a mistake on that rethroating and had thrown away half the usable barrel life in doing so. He went on to say that I shouldn't ask for his opinion (as I did on the throating) unless I was going to follow it, and that he doesn't like working on rifles when people don't follow his advice. He also told me again that normally I'd better understand he charges $25 for rethroating (though I'd requested it originally when the new barrel was ordered and the chambering selected.) He also didn't take responsibility for any of the quality issues I'd brought up, said that I was more trouble than anyone he'd ever had, didn't want to do any more work of mine and said he'd had enough and didn't want to talk any more. Only after coming back into his shop did he reluctantly refund me $17.50 for the broken plastic trigger guard that I replaced with a stainless as requested originally which cost me about $30.</p><p></p><p>Needless to say I won't be going back.</p><p></p><p>All that to say take a look at the pictures and be your own judge. I am not here to say he can't do impeccable works of art. Obviously from his reputation he can and sometimes does. I am just making others aware from the pictures that the reality is he also does work on the other opposite end of the workmanship spectrum, and show an example of what they may or may not get if they order a rifle from him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WindTrax, post: 34744, member: 2606"] The gun smith was Jim Cloward. Around 20 pictures showing what areas I felt were problems are at: [url="http://groups.msn.com/RockCrawler4x4/customriflefromjimcloward.msnw"]http://groups.msn.com/RockCrawler4x4/customriflefromjimcloward.msnw[/url] I took the rifle back, and after a great deal of objection and exasperation on his part he did agree to work on it a bit more. After his getting the work done late, I went to pick up the rifle. He had glued the (somewhat undersized due to over-sanding/grinding) pad onto the stock to eliminate the gaps -mostly (and some glue left on the stock), he machined the shroud to eliminate the contact between the shroud and receiver under recoil (done well), he put a very light coat of something blackish and chalky on at least some areas of the stock inletting (apparently in an effort to address my moisture concernsbut it was so thin I ended up redoing it all myself) and he rethroated the barrel as requested. He then told me that "he had more experience than 20 of me" and that I was making a mistake on that rethroating and had thrown away half the usable barrel life in doing so. He went on to say that I shouldn't ask for his opinion (as I did on the throating) unless I was going to follow it, and that he doesn't like working on rifles when people don't follow his advice. He also told me again that normally I'd better understand he charges $25 for rethroating (though I'd requested it originally when the new barrel was ordered and the chambering selected.) He also didn't take responsibility for any of the quality issues I'd brought up, said that I was more trouble than anyone he'd ever had, didn't want to do any more work of mine and said he'd had enough and didn't want to talk any more. Only after coming back into his shop did he reluctantly refund me $17.50 for the broken plastic trigger guard that I replaced with a stainless as requested originally which cost me about $30. Needless to say I won't be going back. All that to say take a look at the pictures and be your own judge. I am not here to say he can't do impeccable works of art. Obviously from his reputation he can and sometimes does. I am just making others aware from the pictures that the reality is he also does work on the other opposite end of the workmanship spectrum, and show an example of what they may or may not get if they order a rifle from him. [/QUOTE]
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