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Vanguard Sub MOA vs Savage 111 long range
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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 484648" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>I can't compare the two because I have never shot a Savage, but a lot floks seem to really like them. I have never shot a Sub MOA Vanguard either, but my smith just picked one up for me (in 300 Wby) for a build I want to do on it and he said the factory shot target group was about .35". i haven't see nit yet because he is about 3 1/2 hrs from me.</p><p></p><p>I do own a S&W M1500 in 7 RM, which is the same Howa action and I like it a lot. The last time I shot it, it grouped about .3 something @ 100 yds.</p><p></p><p>What I like about the Sub MOA Vanguard (or any Howa action) is...</p><p></p><p>- integral recoil lug in the receiver </p><p>- flat bottomed receiver</p><p>- one piece bolt</p><p>- M16 style extractor</p><p>- ported bolt sleeve</p><p>- very easy to tune trigger - now I've heard some have difficulties tuning the trigger, but that's not been my experience and seems to vary gun to gun.</p><p>- a good selection of aftermarket stocks, bases and rings (any Rem 700 bases and rings will fit the Howa)</p><p></p><p>The Sub MOA platform, stock and action, are a good one to build off of when your factory barrel is shot out - not that the Savage isn't.</p><p></p><p>As mentioned, I think it comes down to personal choice. Take a good look at the features of both, go out and handle both and make your decision.</p><p></p><p>-Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 484648, member: 11717"] I can't compare the two because I have never shot a Savage, but a lot floks seem to really like them. I have never shot a Sub MOA Vanguard either, but my smith just picked one up for me (in 300 Wby) for a build I want to do on it and he said the factory shot target group was about .35". i haven't see nit yet because he is about 3 1/2 hrs from me. I do own a S&W M1500 in 7 RM, which is the same Howa action and I like it a lot. The last time I shot it, it grouped about .3 something @ 100 yds. What I like about the Sub MOA Vanguard (or any Howa action) is... - integral recoil lug in the receiver - flat bottomed receiver - one piece bolt - M16 style extractor - ported bolt sleeve - very easy to tune trigger - now I've heard some have difficulties tuning the trigger, but that's not been my experience and seems to vary gun to gun. - a good selection of aftermarket stocks, bases and rings (any Rem 700 bases and rings will fit the Howa) The Sub MOA platform, stock and action, are a good one to build off of when your factory barrel is shot out - not that the Savage isn't. As mentioned, I think it comes down to personal choice. Take a good look at the features of both, go out and handle both and make your decision. -Mark [/QUOTE]
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